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echoangle 11 hours ago

I would love for someone to fight out these bullshit trademark claims. Are you seriously going to win against a crate author for using your business name after letting them do it for 10 years and even featuring and recommending them on your own website?

(Referencing https://github.com/redis-rs/redis-rs/issues/1419 )

ojosilva an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I have to thank Redis Inc. for bringing on this shitshow. I had no idea about Valkey and now I do. Corporate hats should consider the loss of general trust and negative marketing their actions produce.

And yeah, I wish FSF or some other, strong and well-funded org would be more "broken glass" and take issue with even the tiniest of legal fights over OSS.

0cf8612b2e1e 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Who is going to pay to defend? The rust author is making it clear they want no part of this legal mess. Which is going to be true for nearly any open source contributor. The only people with legal representation are going to be the VCs looking for value extraction.

echoangle 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, that’s the problem. I understand the perspective of the maintainers but it leads to a situation where the large corporation can do illegal stuff and bully people around because it’s too much effort to fight back.

solardev 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's basically our entire society...

dartos 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Hey welcome to the legal system!

tayo42 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That issue looks reasonable, there isnt anything about trademarks there, why bring it up?

It looks to be about providing support to paying users of Redis in a library that doesn't have much goals.

And they offered to pay for it to do it.

echoangle an hour ago | parent [-]

Do ctrl+f for „trademark“, there are currently 12 occurrences. Here’s what the Redis representative wrote:

> These are not my words nor the message I want to convey. In a private call, I said that it feels strange to use the brand name for a library that keeps supporting all the forks indefinitely and does not grant compatibility for the product itself. I also said that it does not make a lot of sense to pretend to rename a crate and replace it with the same software or an alternative library, thus creating confusion and frustration. However, companies do consider protecting their trademarks where their reputation is challenged. This does not need any explanation. In my private call with Armin, I highlighted that. Of course, there is no plan to take action regarding the trademark, but to find a reasoned and agreed-upon way forward to avoid introducing another Redis Rust client library where changes, improvements, and innovation can be introduced.

So basically the point is to make thinly veiled threats of copyright enforcement to „agree to a solution“.

The Mafia also agrees with you on a payment plan after highlighting that a fire would be a shame in your establishment.

znpy 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This looks a lot like the wordpress issue… i think the oss wars of the 2020s will be fought around trademarks?

One more reason to move to valkey i guess.