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fabian2k 4 hours ago

The vaccines worked and saved a lot of lives. There were very rare side effects, and once those were recognized they were addressed in various ways, e.g. by changing the groups that should receive the vaccines.

The part about abortions sounds like a blatant conspiracy theory.

There are some indications that the rules around gain of function research were not followed in some cases. I certainly think that merits investigating and I'm partial towards prohibiting most gain of function research. Doesn't mean publicly attacking Fauci is any reasonable way of doing this.

mdp2021 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> very rare side effects

Still in these very days we meet random people who in normal random conversation tell us (as part of other matters) of coincidental devastating effects.

How did you make that jump from "paper" to "reality", and hold it with the certainty of "a hedgehog here is vomiting on my shoes"? Do not bring us back to that long epiphany that the "dark ages" are still here, never gone.

aeze an hour ago | parent [-]

> Still in these very days we meet random people who in normal random conversation tell us (as part of other matters) of coincidental devastating effects.

You may have. I haven't met anyone who has had any effects other than feeling mildly sick for a day or two afterwards. That's the thing about anecdotal evidence.

didntcheck 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> were very rare side effects, and once those were recognized they were addressed in various ways

Such as initially calling it all misinformation, and asking social media to censor it

cies 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> The part about abortions sounds like a blatant conspiracy theory.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/was-covid-v...

Many countries are stopping the vaccine/booster rollout to the pregnant. They make up funny reasons, but it's safe to consider they know more than we do and simply dont want the data out there.

Govts and big pharma really do not want the data to be analyzed. And they should actually most supportive of showing all available data (anonymized obviously).

https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/350147366/ex-public-servan...

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/health-law-and-business/why-a-...

It's not a consp theory: the FDA, CDC and big pharma have clearly conspired against us, trying to make the C19 vaccine look better, vilifying everyone who did not want it.

VMG an hour ago | parent [-]

> Many countries are stopping the vaccine/booster rollout to the pregnant.

Since you mentioned Japan, I wondered if you meant that country

> 【Q3】 Can I still get the vaccine if I am pregnant, breastfeeding, or planning to become pregnant?

> Yes, you can get the vaccine. There have been no reports that the COVID-19 vaccines approved in Japan has any adverse effects on pregnancy, fetus, breast milk, or reproductive organs. Vaccination is recommended regardless of the time of pregnancy.

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/covid-19/qa_vaccine.html#:~:text=....

Maybe you meant Europe?

> Several studies have shown that messenger RNA (mRNA) COVID-19 vaccines do not cause complications in pregnancy, either for expectant mothers or their babies.

> On the contrary, COVID-19 vaccines protect expectant mothers and their babies.

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/human-regulatory-overview/publi...

Maybe it's not funny reasons but funny countries?