Windows Development, per opposition to DevDiv, Developer Division.

Two quite common names in the Microsoft ecosystem.

asveikau 7 months ago | parent | next [-]

As a former MS employee some time ago I don't think I ever heard "windev". It was always referred to as "Windows". Though there were a lot of different groups within that, so sometimes you'd hear an initialism for a specific team. For example during some of my time there was a big organizational split between "core" and more UI oriented teams.

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pjmlp 7 months ago | parent | next [-]

Here is an example in the press, with an email from Somasegar, leader of developer division in the past.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-splits-up-its-xaml-t...

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asveikau 7 months ago | parent [-]

I was an employee in Windows on the date of that email. I left a few months later. Note that the email itself doesn't say "windev". It says "Windows" a bunch of times.

If I'm stretching this "windev" thing, the domain for a lot of employee accounts (including mine) was NTDEV, that had a longer history afaik, nobody called an org that..

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pjmlp 7 months ago | parent [-]

The journalist writes it though, as do many other folks.

I didn't come up with this definition myself.

If I am not mistaken, I can probably even dig some Sinosfky references using it.

	▲	int_19h 7 months ago \| parent [-]
		I think it was sort of externally derived based on "DevDiv", but as another former MS employee - albeit from DevDiv - I can confirm that "WinDev" is not something that was routinely used inside the company the way "DevDiv" is. Usually it's just "Windows", or "Windows org" if the context is ambiguous.

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loup-vaillant 7 months ago | parent | prev [-]

For a moment there I thought you were referring to this trademark: https://pcsoft.fr/windev/index.html Which was known at a time for having young women in light clothing in their marketing material.

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jcelerier 7 months ago | parent [-]

aha, that's the windev that comes to mind too. I didn't know they were actually a french company, wild that they're still around... their ads were plastered everywere in the 2000s.

Apparently they have a programming language for which you can "one-click-switch" between english and french for the keywords??? https://pcsoft.fr/windev/ebook/56/

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voidfunc 7 months ago | parent [-]

That's actually kind of neat, also I love how the brochure uses the American flag for English...

	▲	xbar 7 months ago \| parent [-]
		Yes. I would have preferred that they had used Canadian flags for both.