▲ | scrapcode 8 months ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I certainly am trending that way as I grow older. As I've recently started to re-dive into Christian theology, the fine-tuning argument seems more and more interesting, and it's pretty difficult to find "good" secular arguments against it. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | Terr_ 8 months ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I don't know, I think the arthropic principle is still going really strong: It's like this because if it wasn't we would be asking different questions or not around to ask at all. It's hard to consider something "so improbable that it must have been God" when we look out at a universe so incomprehensibly bigger that the real question becomes why we haven't evidence of it happening more. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | roncesvalles 8 months ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Aside from the mountain of actual evidence, just to build a philosophical intuition against fine-tuning - you need to appreciate the enormous scale of trial and error at play. - The Earth seems like the perfect planet but looking out into the sky there are trillions of planets that aren't perfect at all. - Most likely the universe also appears "perfect" for the same reason - there must be a graveyard of universes where the parameters just didn't work out for life. - Evolution is much the same - many mutations occur all the time, most are fixed by cellular machinery, most that aren't are deleterious, but once in a while a helpful mutation emerges. Take a moment to understand the timescale involved. Don't just handwave away 3.8 billion years as some number - feel it, starting at 1 year and stepping up each order of magnitude. You will realize that a million years is essentially "forever ago", and we had 3800 of those to get here. Consider how many species exist that aren't civilizational sentient intelligence. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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