> it’s fucking depressing when even the fucking bare minimum form of regulation is followed to the letter and no more, because every company out there fucking hates you and would sell you out to make a bit more money if they legally could. and even if they couldn’t, who’s going to stop them?

Certainly not any government. If you think the EU's regulation are of any help to the consumer you are gravely mistaken. The EU is quickly becoming a fucking nightmare to live in. "The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws". The meme that goes around atm is that while Elon Musk created Tesla, SpaceX and Starlink the EU managed to get everybody to now have plastic bottles who do not close properly anymore: due to some regulation that mandates that bottle caps must hold to the bottle, weird only partially-functional mechanism have been created and it's a PITA to either drink from a plastic bottle or, worse, try to lay it horizontally in a fridge.

That's what the EU is: probably that some politicians or bureaucrats with enough brain cells to recognize a bottle cap on the ground thought "I've got an idea to make the EU better, let's mandate every bottle to have a cap that cannot be separated from the bottle".

As a result you lay horizontally a plastic bottle of sugary drink in your fridge (because you've been used to do that for decades) and now all your fridge is sticky due to the bottle leaking.

It's all that is wrong with the EU bureaucrats in one example.

Also hailing the EU as the savior vs Microsoft when our lives becames miserable with EU consent cookie popups virtually everywhere is a bit thick.

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orbat 8 months ago | parent | next [-]

So the EU is bad because you can't learn to screw on a bottle cap that's different than before?

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SirHumphrey 8 months ago | parent | next [-]

I am not joining the whole “EU is bad argument”, however the new caps are very annoying, especially the limited benefits they provide.

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kawsper 8 months ago | parent | next [-]

The non-profit Plastic Deposit Organisation, responsible for managing Denmark's container deposit system, estimates that this change alone will enable them to collect and reuse approximately 70 million additional bottle caps annually. This equates to 140 tonnes of plastic each year.

https://www.emballagefokus.dk/goer-noget-uden-at-goere-noget...

	▲	account42 8 months ago \| parent [-]
		This assumes a 90% cap return rate before (which seems low) and a 100% return rate afterwards (not in Denmark myself but I can't be the only one to have returned zero of the new caps vs almost 100% before). The whole thing smells like a made up issue concocted by some company wanting to sell their bottle cap solution.

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orbat 8 months ago | parent | prev [-]

Honestly I find it baffling that a competent adult could find the caps annoying or hard to use

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lmm 8 months ago | parent | prev [-]

Honestly yeah. The EU is run entirely by PMC people who don't understand or care about the effect on lower-class and frankly less intelligent people's lives.

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CRConrad 8 months ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> The meme that goes around atm is that while Elon Musk created Tesla, SpaceX and Starlink the EU managed to get everybody to now have plastic bottles who do not close properly anymore: due to some regulation that mandates that bottle caps must hold to the bottle, weird only partially-functional mechanism have been created and it's a PITA to either drink from a plastic bottle or, worse, try to lay it horizontally in a fridge.

I haven't encountered that meme, but if it exists, it's like most memes seem to be: Wrong. The bottle caps work just fine.

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rakoo 8 months ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> while Elon Musk created Tesla, SpaceX and Starlink the EU [created] some regulation that mandates that bottle caps must hold to the bottle

At least the EU made something useful

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WD-42 8 months ago | parent | prev [-]

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CRConrad 8 months ago | parent [-]

No, he needs to learn how to screw on a bottle cap. We keep soda bottles horizontal in our fridge, and they don't leak.

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account42 8 months ago | parent [-]

Dismissing people's real concerns is how you get them to vote for parties you don't like. Fact is that the new caps do make it easier to end up without a good seal.

	▲	CRConrad 8 months ago \| parent [-]
		That's only a "real concern" if... I don't know, if you're somehow exceptionally clumsy? But then, you'd be much more likely to drop the old-style cap while trying to screw it on, so the new one would probably be an improvement. So no, it is not a "fact" that the new caps make it easier to end up with a bad seal. I rather think you'd have to go out of your way to specifically do that.