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That is not the shape of the world in the story under discussion.

Within the story, the dystopia crams the masses into cheap housing, they have no jobs nor possibility of jobs, no freedom even to leave as they are apprehended by robots if they try; and the utopia has no need for jobs, but gives out UBI credits to be spent on whatever you want the machines to make for you, and lets you live out a fantasy life.

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shiroiushi 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Sounds pretty good compared to the current state of things in many places for many people. At least they 1) don't need to slave away at grueling, pointless jobs, 2) have their own housing, and 3) aren't starving.

	▲	ben_w 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I wouldn't say they have their own housing, it's government bunkbeds they can't afford to rent. > Instead of giving people a welfare check, they started putting welfare recipients directly into government housing and serving them meals in a cafeteria > It was a lot like an old-style college dorm. Each person got a 5 foot by 10 foot room with a bed and a TV — the world’s best pacifier. During the day the bed was a couch and people sat on the bedspread, which also served as a sheet and the blanket. At night the bed was a bed. When I arrived they had just started putting in bunk beds to double the number of people in each building. I've visited an apartment in one of the poorer (but not literally slum) areas of Nairobi that was bigger than that. I can't remember exactly where now, but it had these kinds of vibes on the outside, and it was still better than the government housing in the story: https://maps.app.goo.gl/Y8DAByJPfCiRtQmm6?g_st=ic