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cprayingmantis 16 hours ago

If anyone from Starlink or SpaceX is reading these comments here’s what you want to do: Sell your own branded trail cam with solar charging and LTE from orbit. You can charge $25-$40 a month for unlimited pictures sent from the cam. This would open up hunters, nature enthusiasts, and researchers to be able to place their hardware anywhere in the field without worrying about connectivity. Here in SWVA we have deep hollows that can’t get LTE without dense tower coverage that we don’t have the population to justify, but you can grab a satellite connection.

After writing this out I’m beginning to doubt the market would be big enough but I know at least 20 people with 2 or more LTE cams for deer season.

teruakohatu 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I work with researchers that deploy all sorts of solar powered sensor equipment in remote parts of New Zealand. Realistically Starlink would need to support NB-IoT and LTE-M which is what these kinds of devices are moving towards (if they need cellular connectivity). These are low power variants of 4G and 5G.

Even if you have solar and a fixed platform, you usually want to deploy as little solar as possible. Especially if you need to carry the gear on foot. So minimising power consumption is really important.

djsnoopy 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Ridiculously niche comments from experts like this is why HN is so special. Thank you.

teruakohatu 9 hours ago | parent [-]

No problem. It’s also why I love HN.

pandemic_region 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> This would open up hunters,

Christ what more do you guys need to shoot a rabbit.

aniviacat an hour ago | parent [-]

Hunters observe wildlife. They don't just shoot wildlife whenever they feel like it.

rpmisms 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My in-laws live in your county, and Starlink is the only Internet that actually works. Thankfully the TN side runs fiber on the power poles.

Additionally, Starlink was a complete lifesaver during Helene.

scellus 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In Finland, i get 5Mbps LTE uplink for EUR 4 per month, for a trailcam, with unlimited use (at least in principle). So $20 per month sounds expensive, but obviously there are places where one has no earthly LTE and then it could be justified.

In general, having low-bandwidth Starlink IoT connections globally accessible would be just great, I can see lots of usage.

lm28469 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Current US mobile coverage and prices are like europe in 2002

gspr 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Finland is fairly flat and has _excellent_ LTE coverage. Being in Norway myself, which isn't flat, but still has fantastic LTE coverage for political reasons, I do often find myself thinking like you, and need to be reminded of how abysmal coverage is in rural North America (and even in for example rural Germany).

user3939382 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Isn’t tree cover a problem for propagation of wavelengths used in satellite comms?

piyh 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>Direct to Cell works with existing LTE phones wherever you can see the sky.

No new antennas implies we're in the 1-6 GHz region. Should be fine?

hughesjj 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Lte antennas of almost arbitrary length exist

dyauspitr 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Having had starlink before, yes. I needed a direct line of sight to the sky to receive service.

MobiusHorizons 9 hours ago | parent [-]

This service uses a different radio link using LTE. That’s why you don’t need the dish. They had to launch new satellites with the extra radio gear. So your past experience is not necessarily representative.

geepytee 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Interesting idea. I can build this and open source it. I imagine there is equivalent hardware over LTE already?

_hark 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This could also be a hardware startup. If only there were some entrepreneur types around...

Presumably there's a market for this in other niches, e.g. weather monitoring, defense/border monitoring, etc... The question is whether the juice is worth the squeeze. Where's the really valuable data?

plorntus 15 hours ago | parent [-]

I recall not too long ago a startup advertising exactly this idea for farms. It was some box with various sensors (and output lines) that you could configure to do a multitude of tasks

Nextgrid 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As long as it doesn't need near-real-time viewing (or if it does, said viewing can be billed for as a separate per-user fee), it wouldn't cost anything extra to SpaceX in the sense that those cameras could use free capacity, only transmitting when nothing else is.

bilsbie 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Surf cam would be amazing too. Just tie a solar, starlink cam to a pier and check in.

geepytee 16 hours ago | parent [-]

I see a lot of surf cams online, are those usually custom hardware?

nbap 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Ten years ago I installed one cam for Surfline and at that time it's was an off-the-shelf but expensive outdoor camera (stock firmware) connected to a locally-based broadband.

bilsbie 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The only one in my area wants a subscription fee :-(

I guess they need to contract with businesses or parks? It would be cool to buy a cheap one and just tie it to a tree or something.

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chasd00 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Off grid cabins could use this too.

iknowstuff 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Nah, those should use a proper Starlink dish.

Direct to cell bandwidth is obviously very limited.

wepple 4 hours ago | parent [-]

A proper starlink dish requires real power, which isn’t reliable in an off grid situation.

You need very little bandwidth because there is typically not a lot happening at a remote cabin.

leoh 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

iot is coming next year so you can do all you want then

ChumpGPT 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

$25-$40 is insane. Spypoint offers 250 pics for free a month and 1000 for $6 a month. As long as you can connect to a cell tower (1 bar is enough). That probably covers 80 % of hunt properties.

https://www.spypoint.com/en/spypoint-experience/plans

repiret 10 hours ago | parent [-]

At least in the Western United States, most hunting is done on publicly owned land, and there's enormous swaths of public land with absolutely zero cell phone coverage.