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bbor 17 hours ago

Pretty awesome! Convenience link to the fascinating github issue linked at the bottom, featuring Bluesky celebrity pfrazee: https://github.com/bluesky-social/atproto/issues/523

I have a lot of hope for AT. I'm sure there's lots of smart people on HN that have done great things with the Fediverse, but this whole paradigm just seems more sustainable + realistic. Basically it gives us centralization by default, but with real decentralized support when you need it / for power users.

jazzyjackson 17 hours ago | parent [-]

As far as sustainability goes I'm hoping for a better business model than "accept funds from Blockchain Capital" [0], some return on investment in mirroring the firehouse. I can muse, a Discord alternative where some users pay to host longer videos (current limit is 60sec [1]) or Patreon where a relay takes a cut in exchange for managing access/decryption keys, or Bandcamp or some other kind of social marketplace - as it is theres no reason I couldn't do this, it is an open platform after all.

[0] https://www.blockchaincapital.com/blog/bluesky-13m-users-and...

[1] https://bsky.social/about/blog/09-11-2024-video

pm90 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Im hoping that most of the infra costs get amortized by people bringing on their PDS’s, while some of the core stuff (app layer, iOS app etc.) is maintained by a small team funded by donations/subscriptions.

bbor 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah I’m also worried about profitability, tho not particularly concerned about that particular investor, personally; all VCs are inherently amoral profit generators. They are a “benefit corporation” like anthropic, which gives them some leeway to deny shareholder requests in the name of public good. Which is nice!

In general I feel like social media is in the perfect spot for a huge shakeup as display ads breathe their last breath. Even if Google wins/draws out its Display Ads antitrust case and successfully implements some new interest-tagging system, I think anyone with a calculator and a newspaper subscription can read the leaves at this point; people are concerned about their data, and the money it generates is peanuts compared to more traditional advertising schemes. All of this is of course not even mentioning what I think intuitive algorithms will do (cynical or no, there’s lots of credentialed scientists saying that AGI (!!) is within reach in the coming decade, if not the coming few year).

All that to say: I feel like they can find a way to make it work. Revenue doesn’t need to be as high anyway if you a) don’t have 1000 devs optimizing Display Ad A/B tests all day, and b) have the support of the open source community.

yokem55 16 hours ago | parent [-]

If they can get ~100k subs to a $10/mo premium service similar to discord nitro, they are probably close to breaking even at the current scale and ops methodology. Which seems feasible.