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AnimalMuppet a day ago

What if there were no hypothetical questions?

That is, you can ask hypothetical what ifs all you like, but unless you have a concrete plan for getting there, you're just writing fantasies.

And, management decisions get reviewed before implementation all the time. It's just not a code review, precisely because management decisions are not code.

Why aren't they code? Because people aren't computers. If you're going to treat them like they are computers, then I don't want to work in your company.

noirbot 18 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's also that a lot of management "decisions" happen in the moment. Is how they phrase something in a meeting or a one on one. It's how they respond or ignore questions. It's how strongly the push for someone to be promoted.

They're decisions, but often not something you can have sitting for review for days ahead, even if it's only seen by senior management. I've had plenty of times management announced something I agreed with, but the way they explained it was so rancid I came out of it upset.

At the end of the day, management, and in general all human interactions, are a glimpse into who you are. It can go amazingly well, or disastrously poorly. You can try to be very careful and say what's needed, but tone and timing and phrasing will almost always give things away.

lifeisstillgood 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Look with a historical lens - democracy in USA. From the point of view of say Chartists in 1776 it is a good start, 80 years till slave males can vote, 80 years till women can vote and another forty till civil rights. In 1776 can we call that a “concrete plan”?

Or is the fantasy “votes for all” actually a plan?

Yeah we can have plans - get Zuckerberg to give up power and place it in the hands of employees? Maybe convert Meta to a co-operative?

But on the literacy point - at some point we ran everything with illiterate “managers” - but slowly developed organisations that use literacy. My, yes ok fantasy, is not only democracy but that everyone inna company is software literate and has access to (maybe not write access) the code base of the company.

So there is a concrete plan - a whole org test rig, a company that every IRL action has a virtual shadow, a codebase that directs this IRL actions day-to-day and everyone having access to the codebase and able to suggest / comment or even vote on pull requests.

Run the company through code - change the company through democratic politics