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aprilthird2021 a day ago

So odd, if you told any of your loved ones, or a random stranger, "Hey they found a hundred+ year old message in a bottle recently, want to hear what it said?" The person would of course want to know and of course be disappointed to find out it's essentially the credits for who built a lighthouse, and yet tons of HN'ers are super mad at the insinuation that the letter ended up being more or less a waste.

notnaut a day ago | parent | next [-]

The imbedded disdain a lot of tech minded people have for anything frivolous ought to tell you why so many of them have a hard time finding meaning, comfort, human connection.

krisoft a day ago | parent | next [-]

> imbedded disdain a lot of tech minded people have for anything frivolous

My disdain is not for things frivolous. I'm a big fan of frivolous things.

My disdain is for those who wish these long departed engineers did things in order to entertain us in this day and age.

If they, the original engineers, would have wanted to write a poem that would be great. That is their choice.

We got a glimpse into their world and the commenter doesn't like what they see. Saying that what they did wasn't the right thing to do assumes that the commenter ideas are more correct than their ideas. That's arrogant.

If you think it's not the right message, go restore your own lighthouse and leave the message you want to leave. Instead of telling others what they should have.

aprilthird2021 a day ago | parent [-]

> My disdain is for those who wish these long departed engineers did things in order to entertain us in this day and age.

Surely you don't think they are actually upset at some people none of us know for not writing a poetic message.

The point is: "Wow, we found a hundreds of years old message, what amazing insights of the past might we glean, what insights into the minds of that time?" "Oh, it's just a list of who built a lighthouse"

> Saying that what they did wasn't the right thing to do assumes that the commenter ideas are more correct than their ideas. That's arrogant.

I will butt in here though, if you have a chance to drift out a message to sea with some hope someone else may find it one day and read what you wrote, would you write that you were the author of some open source project? Or would you write something about your real feelings, the world around you, your thoughts and hopes and dreams, or maybe even share something about your town, your ancestors, your culture, the things you care about, etc.

Most of us, I'm sure, would not choose to do the former.

krisoft 21 hours ago | parent [-]

> would you write that you were the author of some open source project

They didn't drift out a message to sea. They wrote it on their handiwork. Would people write their names on their open source project? Yes, they would, and they do. In fact there are licences where the only requirement is that you have to preserve the name of the original authors on the project. This is extremely common.

This is the same. They thought they did a good job, were proud of it and signed it. The same way a painter signs a canvas or the crew writes their name in the credits of a movie.

They used a glass to preserve the paper in an otherwise inhospitable environment.

> Surely you don't think they are actually upset at some people none of us know for not writing a poetic message.

Why would I think they are upset? They are not upset. They are arrogant and demanding. Instead of accepting what it is (people who the history forgot preserving their own name attached to something they put a lot of work into), the commenter is wishing they did something more which would have been more appropriate according to the commenter's values.

> would you write something about your real feelings, the world around you, your thoughts and hopes and dreams, or maybe even share something about your town, your ancestors, your culture, the things you care about, etc.

Did Steven Spielberg wrote any of those into the credits of Jurassic Park? Or just wrote "Director: Steven Spielberg"? This is the same. The message is the lighthouse. The bottle is the signature. It is a "we did this". And they don't have to expound on the "this" because if you found the bottle you are standing in it/on it.

pfdietz a day ago | parent | prev [-]

So, the diametric opposite of all those tech people who are furries.

krisoft a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> The person would of course want to know

So would I!

> and of course be disappointed to find out it's essentially the credits for who built a lighthouse

I wouldn’t be disapointed. This is very exciting. We learn how many of them were there and what was important to them. For example they clearly had pride in finishing their work.

We can then ask the question who they were, how did they live? How did they got this job? Using their names we can go back in archives and find more about them. This is super exciting.

> yet tons of HN'ers are super mad at the insinuation that the letter ended up being more or less a waste

Because it is not a waste, that is why. If you can’t enjoy it as it is, bad for you.