Israel isn't "indigenous" or not, it's a country. I think the same as the historical consensus - there was a state called Israel where the Jews lived, they were ethnically cleansed by the Roman Empire. Call it whatever you want.

> Israel shares values with no one. I've never seen dozens of US soldiers dress up in the lingerie of murdered women.

Have you seen the pictures of US soldiers at Abu Ghraib? It's not hard to find pictures of some US soldiers doing bad things. Not that that excuses what the IDF soldiers did.

So when you say that Israel shares western values what you mean is the desire to commit sadistic torture and violate human rights? I don't disagree at all actually that the US also does not practice what it preaches.