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aspenmayer 2 days ago

That rubric only works until sufficiently advanced LLM-generated HN posts are indistinguishable from human-generated HN posts.

It also doesn’t speak to the permission or lack thereof of training LLMs on HN content, which was another main point of OP.

JavierFlores09 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> That rubric only works until sufficiently advanced LLM-generated HN posts are indistinguishable from human-generated HN posts.

if a comment made by a LLM is indistinguishable from a normal one, it'd be impossible to moderate anyway unless one starts tracking people across comments and see the consistency of their replies and overall stance so I don't particularly think it is useful to worry about people who will go the extra length to go undetected

aspenmayer 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> if a comment made by a LLM is indistinguishable from a normal one, it'd be impossible to moderate anyway unless one starts tracking people across comments and see the consistency of their replies and overall stance so I don't particularly think it is useful to worry about people who will go the extra length to go undetected

The existence of rule-breakers is not itself an argument against a rules-based order.

tredre3 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

HN's guidelines aren't "laws" to be "enforced", they're a list of unwelcome behaviors. There is value in setting expectations for participants in a community, even if some will choose to break them and get away with it.

bawolff 2 days ago | parent [-]

If comments by LLMs were actually as valuable & insightful as human comments there would be no need for the rule. The rule is in place because they usually aren't.

Relavent xkcd https://xkcd.com/810/

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redox99 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's pretty trivial to finetune an LLM to output posts that are indistinguishable.

majormajor 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

That's assuming a certain outcome: indistinguishable posts.

Some would say LLM-generated posts will eventually be superior information-wise. In which case possibly the behavior will change naturally.

Or maybe they don't get there any time soon and stay in the uncanny valley for a long time.

I'm kinda fine with a "if you can't be bothered to even change the standard-corporate-BS-tone of your copypaste, you get downvoted" - for all I know some people might be more clever with their prompting to get something less crap-sounding, and then they'll just live or die on the coherence of the comment.