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K0balt 3 days ago

In finance, you should never assume incompetence over malice. It very rarely works out that way. Malicious incompetence maybe.

This is probably a rug pull in a system designed for money laundering. They can’t figure out where money came from or who it belonged to…. I don’t think that happened out of the blue using standard accounting practices.

By mixing non-bank money companies and traditional banking services, you can construct an effectively opaque and ultra efficient system to obfuscate the origins of funds, all without deviation in an obvious way from what looks like standard accounting. All of the best money laundering happens in plain sight within the banking industry through clever constructions. AML rules are just there to eliminate the competition.

My guess is that it was time to shut down and the fingerprints had to be burned. Maybe no customer money was stolen, but the data of who has what money and who it belonged to might be hopelessly obfuscated in the process of obfuscation of their primary activities.

This is not likely an example of sloppy accounting, but rather of very, very clever accounting and orchestrated fraud to make money disappear out of an otherwise well designed system of accounting. The real question is where did the fraud propagate out of? What was the exploit, what was the systemic vulnerability, and who exploited it?

There is a huge incentive in fintech to create “legitimate products“ where John Q. Public deposits funds that just happen to be very useful for money laundering when combined with some other, apparently unrelated activity or similar lever that only an insider knows how to pull. It works fundamentally like a cryptocurrency coin mixer, without the hassle or suspicious profile. Shifting burdens of documentation often have gaps where things can “get lost” and shell companies that act only as conduits and never hold funds can evaporate with little accountability. Often, “unknowing” accomplice banks are left holding the bag…but all you have to figure out is where to repatriate the money that people will come looking for, the flows you know no one is going to come asking about effectively never happened.

Meanwhile it’s very easy to take a margin of 10 percent or more of the flows. And they aren’t small flows. It’s a multibillion dollar market. The demand and the incentives are absolutely spectacular.

For the most part, these crimes are invisible to the public, very difficult to prosecute, and effectively impossible to garner the political support to even launch an investigation into, for reasons.

I hope the hapless victims at least get their money back some day.

zaphar 2 days ago | parent [-]

I disagree with this previous premise: In finance, you should never assume incompetence over malice. It very rarely works out that way. Malicious incompetence maybe.

I suspect it's informed more by confirmation bias fed by the news cycle than actual facts. And Misty likely the rule of thumb featuring incompetence still holds.

K0balt 2 days ago | parent [-]

I have very good reason to believe otherwise, but I do prefer your view of the world if given a choice. It’s a happier path to stay on until you find it no longer fits your experience.

Kinda like the billions of dollars that the DOD “can’t” account for.

You ever try to get the DOD to hand you a few million dollars? There’s a bit of paperwork involved.

Accounting is not hit or miss, and it’s not exactly an unexplored frontier. Its a pretty safe bet that when a well funded, fully staffed organization “can’t” account for some amount of money, it’s because someone along that path wanted it to be that way, or was negligent in such a way that it is equivalent to intent.

To clarify, I’m not maligning the DOD here. It’s just their way of saying “you don’t need to know.” Overall, the DOD is a great business partner, and I would recommend anyone with relevant high quality services to look into contracting with them. Aside from the relatively stringent paperwork requirements, they are responsive, diligent, and pleasant to work with.

zaphar 2 days ago | parent [-]

There is a big difference between can't and won't. In the DoD case they "won't" for legal, and/or national security reasons. In the Synapse case I have no problem believing they can't because a bunch of tech "entrepreneurs" who think they can just break into as complicated an industry as money transfers are exactly the kind of people I would totally expect to mess it up without realizing it.

Most things are more complicated than people think from the outside and it's way easier to be incompetent at something than people think. That's the whole point of the rule in the first place.

K0balt 2 days ago | parent [-]

I guess you are assuming that they did not employ an accounting firm or accountants to assist with the design of their system?

If that is the case (non-accountants attempting accounting, or not bothering, perhaps) then you have a point… but I doubt that is what happened.

It would be grossly negligent crossing into malfeasance, and probably criminally illegal to operate a money business without proper accounting supervision (and accounting is a regulated, qualified profession similar to law)

But, if that is indeed what happened, I look forward to seeing the founders in federal prison. I just kinda doubt they ran a banking startup without ever consulting a lawyer or an accountant.

salawat 2 days ago | parent [-]

...Because there are no shady accountants or lawyers more motivated by a quick buck to be made, with the wherewithal to stay reasonably distant from anything blatantly capable of blowing back on them. Surely.

K0balt 2 days ago | parent [-]

So then you are saying it -was- Malfeasance?

So I guess we agree then. Welcome to the dark side.