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unethical_ban 7 months ago

What about the downside of takeout?

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SauntSolaire 7 months ago | parent [-]

Okay so now your solution involves banning takeout.

Also leftovers are a thing.

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soulofmischief 7 months ago | parent [-]

> Also leftovers are a thing.

Are you familiar with glass? Leftovers are a solved problem.

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johnisgood 7 months ago | parent | next [-]

Or plastic, or whatever else. Leftovers are not an issue, unless I order from a place and they happen to use paper (or cardboard) containers as I cannot store them for too long.

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SauntSolaire 7 months ago | parent | prev [-]

You're bringing glass containers with you to restaurants for your leftovers?

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soulofmischief 7 months ago | parent [-]

Is that an insane proposition? Are we now shaming and ridiculing people for not prioritizing convenience over long-term sustainability?

This is exactly what a lifestyle change looks like. I'm sorry, but there are exceedingly few such necessary changes which will introduce more convenience into your life. Most of them will be at an inconvenience.

Our problem was letting ourselves get conditioned into normalizing unsustainable habits. A large amount of plastic waste needs to be eliminated, and if you can't be bothered to bring your own leftover containers to a restaurant, maybe you should be getting smaller portions.

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BadHumans 7 months ago | parent [-]

It is kinda insane yes. I'd rather just eat less takeout than carry glassware with me all the time on the off chance I decide to go out to eat.

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soulofmischief 7 months ago | parent [-]

It's too much work to keep some in the trunk? You can buy plexiglass with external silicone support structures which are much more practical and less noisy to have in a moving vehicle.

But yeah less takeout is an okay choice too. Like, I love the taste and texture of meat, I'm designed to, but I abstain from eating it because of the environmental and ethical impact of the global meat industry. It's a sacrifice, one I'm often ridiculed for down here in the Southern US as well.

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SauntSolaire 7 months ago | parent [-]

> It's too much work to keep some in the trunk?

Assuming I have a car. Let me just carry some glassware around with me on the train just in case.

Actually, all of this and you have a car? Talk about prioritizing convenience over long-term sustainability. Consider using public transit instead; this is exactly what a lifestyle change looks like.

	▲	soulofmischief 7 months ago \| parent [-]
		Nice try. 1. I don't have a car, and I try to leverage buses, trains, etc. when I can. Or I just walk. 2. My current city, which I have recently moved back to temporarily, is notorious for its lack of walkability or adequate public transit. Not every city is like San Francisco. Many cities in the south are explicitly designed to make things difficult for poor people, and to segregate them. My advice was for people who do have cars. If you don't, it is not difficult to carry something around in a bag if you regularly eat out and take home leftovers. I felt no need to be exhaustive, the advice is easily modifiable to other situations. In your rushed attempt to paint me as a hypocrite, all you've done is get an egg on your face. It sounds like you're the one who needs to change your lifestyle, and be less presumptuous.