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> Even in this campaign they've been objectively trying to reduce civilian casualties despite it's detrimental effect on their military objective.

Puh-lease..! The ones wanting the genocide (yeah I say this deliberately) to end don't see it that way. At best you're delusional if you think they Israeli army benevolently cares, at worst you know this is a lie and you cynically don't care.

Like you cynically just sum up overall casualty numbers as "just 1 year's worth of population growth". The official number is 40000. AFAIK that's the number of directly killed by American/European bombs dropped by the IDF, bullets or by a building collapsing on them because a bomb dropped nearby. The unofficial number (killed by lack of food, housing, sanitation) is a lot higher, e.g. 186000 up to July (1). That's 186000 seeds of future terrorists avowing revenge (hey if you, as someone of the pro-genocide camp, are "lucky", maybe entire communities get wiped out that no one is left to fester anger about their community members' unjust death. And somewhere in there is probably the genocide-doers' unsaid justification about killing babies (14 pages of the list of names and ages of victims of this war have the number "0" for their age, but hey "just 1 year's worth of population growth!") - the freshly born Palestinians "deserve" to be killed, because otherwise they are going to grow up hating the nation that killed 186000 members of their community anyway and bombed their country into the middle ages, why not kill them now?).

1) https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20240711-more-than-1...

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jojobas 4 days ago | parent [-]

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aguaviva 4 days ago | parent [-]

One can quibble about the technical definition of genocide, or the degree of intent on the part of the perpetrators.

But I don't see how one can say that 40,000+ largely civilian deaths (including around 15k women, minors and elderly) -- likely to eventually grow to easily 3x that amount (even if the war were to stop today) due to the long-term health impacts of the overall situation, according to people who study these things -- isn't "making a dent" in the population.

Unless one implicitly considers that population to be, well, kind of not really human to begin with.

Just imagine someone saying: "The Oct 7th attack was kind of messy I guess, but really, you can't say it was genocidal -- after all, it didn't even make a dent in Jewish population."

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jojobas 4 days ago | parent [-]

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aguaviva 4 days ago | parent [-]

As a commander in chief of the IDF, what would have you done differently?

Publically resign, denouncing my government's decades of bungling, hardheadedness and general heartlessness in the face of the situation that it has, in the scheme of things, largely created for itself. Ideally, also transferring as many incriminating documents, images/videos and datasets as possible to the ICC/ICJ and/or respected journalists as would be appropriate and helpful to the broader cause of building a just and lasting peace in the region.

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