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helge9210 4 days ago

He referred to Palestinians as Amalek.

Since there are not many Hebrew books written over the centuries (for obvious reasons), modern literature is heavily relying on religious texts for metaphors and analogues.

Calling someone Amalek is a call for genocide.

throwaway_fjmr 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Erm. No? The Amalekites are “just” the enemies of Israel.

cluckindan 2 days ago | parent [-]

The 188th commandment says to wipe out Amalek completely, male and female, young and old, sparing none, since evil has no future. Livestock too.

Maimonides elaborates that when the Jewish people wage war against Amalek, they must request the Amalekites to accept the Seven Laws of Noah and pay a tax to the Jewish kingdom. If they refuse, they are to be executed.

There are more moderate interpretations, but this discussion is about Ashkenazi fundamentalists.

v0idzer0 2 days ago | parent [-]

Sure but this sounds exactly like the original definition of jihad or even “from the river to the sea” but people will get very upset if you suggest they mean they want to commit genocide when they chant it. I don’t think an argument over the meaning of ancient words is relevant or helpful here

helge9210 2 days ago | parent [-]

Absolutely not. "Jihad" is mainly about personal internal struggle. "Amalek" is only about genocide.

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helge9210 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

The main lesson of the Holocaust is: if someone is saying he is going to kill you, you believe him and act accordingly.

Let's for the sake of argument assume you're correct and these were just words. How come at least 200k civilians in Gaza are dead as the result?

raxxorraxor 4 days ago | parent [-]

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sofixa 4 days ago | parent [-]

> While Israel isn't entirely innocent here, most of their problems stem from their hostility towards their neighbor.

Do you happen to know why that hostility exists and on what the hatred-filled propaganda that Palestinian civilians are subjected is based? Maybe there is something historic there?

And in the same way that we can and do blame Hamas for their brutal atrocities, and the propaganda of hate the people acting in their name doesn't excuse their acts but merely explain it... we can blame Israel for their brutal atrocities, and its army members and commanders for committing them. Your enemy hating you because of 80 years of near constant conflict and antagonism isn't an excuse to starve his children, especially when that enemy is a literal terrorist group.

raxxorraxor a day ago | parent [-]

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sofixa a day ago | parent [-]

> Because the region tried to implement a form of Arab nationalism where Jews were suppressed. That would have happened if they didn't fight for their independence

The Jewish settlers in the region were overwhelmingly newcomers that came in the early 1900s. Of course Arabs considered them as outsiders trying to displace them, and in hindsight they were absolutely right.

raxxorraxor a day ago | parent [-]

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sumedh 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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