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Wouldn't Microsoft be scared to suffer the same faith, if this were to really happen?

duringmath 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Microsoft doesn't want Google to control the codebase Edge is based on and doesn't want anyone to counter the MSFT + OpenAI partnership, and the DOJ is trying to hand them their wishes. Hopefully the judge rejects this overreach and rules on lawsuit scope.

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Grimblewald 4 days ago | parent [-]

preferable would be preventing google+anthropic but also breaking up ms + openai

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inlined 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Doubt that’s on the table unless Microsoft is also sued. Without a joint ruling this wouldn’t be balanced

	▲	Grimblewald 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		Doesn't mean we a) can't hope b) shouldn't hope

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duringmath 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Ideally the feds would stay out of it and let the market do its thing.

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ethbr1 4 days ago | parent [-]

As someone who remembers a time before Google, no.

Letting "the market do its thing" only works until a few companies accumulate enough power to monopolize the market.

The last two decades have seen being the next Google transformed into being acquired by Google, which has been to the detriment of everyone.

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adrr 4 days ago | parent [-]

I remember the time before google. We were all stuck IE with no competitive browsers and everyone was using Windows machines. Now we have three browsers and multiple platforms. I just bought a Chromebook plus, that can run linux apps but is easy enough for my kid to use. My wife uses windows laptop and I use a mac. We have Amazon Echos through out the house. We have 4 major players in the tech space instead of one. Apple, Google, Microsoft and Amazon.

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ethbr1 4 days ago | parent [-]

Netscape? IE didn't become dominant until 2000+.

And those four players are more of a cartel than competitors, having agreed to mostly stay out of each other's ways.

The primary overlapping markets between them are consumptive devices and cloud services -- which I presume they're all in because they consider it strategically important enough to their other businesses to incinerate money.

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adrr 4 days ago | parent [-]

Apple and Google makes phones. All of them make tablets. Microsoft and Apple make laptops. All but Apple sell cloud computing. Google, Apple and Microsoft have office suites. Apple, Amazon and Google offer paid streaming platforms. Amazon, Apple and Google All offer smart assistants. I can keep going with things like game platforms, consumer storage,streaming music. Failing to see how they stay out of each other's way or have agreements with each other. Apple and Google literally give away their office apps which is the bread butter of Microsoft,

	▲	ethbr1 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		Apple and Google don't compete on phones, because they've each intentionally built incompatible ecosystems. See earlier comment about consumer devices. Office suites have Google sharing an MS Office-compatible suite they purchased. Apple has MS Office on its platform. But no real competition or innovation. Who aside from Microsoft runs a gaming platform? What looks like open competition gets a lot narrower in overlap once you look at the details. Which is exactly what you'd expect, if you allowed companies to get too big and too dominant: they're not dumb, so they strategically rig the game in their favor to disadvantage new entrants, while carteling with similarly sized peers to ensure everyone mostly stays out of each other's pools.

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lmm 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The status quo is bad for Microsoft, anything with the potential to shake it up is worth doing. And they'd get a head start.