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naming_the_user 5 days ago

Very cool, but to me it kind of illustrates a common pattern of thought on here which is that there's theoretically some sort of "optimum" city design which works for everyone which is a fallacy.

There are costs and benefits to everything. In London you can walk ten minutes, jump on the train, get where you want, have a walkable (ish) town centre, go home drunk, and it's accessible to the poor (if we assume away rents which are theoretically solvable).

But then in various American cities you can drive 20 minutes in your own bubble from your suburban house to a parking lot around the corner from the bar/restaurant/whatever. You're shielded from weather and don't have to socialise with undesirables.

Neither of those systems feel inherently "wrong" or "right" to me, they feel like different opinions. I've enjoyed both at different stages of my life for different reasons.

If anything I feel that the "worst case" is when you try to mix both because then you either have hilarious congestion (because cars are too big to fit on medieval streets) or huge walking distances / public transport dead spots (because trains can't cover large areas with low population density).

tmnvix 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Neither of those systems feel inherently "wrong" or "right" to me, they feel like different opinions.

One of those options is clearly much, much worse for the planet. That's not just my opinion.

naming_the_user 4 days ago | parent [-]

Sure. The world would be more biodiverse, have less CO2 in the atmosphere, be less "touched" in general if you or I moved into a mud hut, or furthermore pulled out the old KMS card.

Realistically it doesn't matter what we do - we can't make the world "more untouched" than it would be if we didn't exist.

People have differing opinions on the level of modification that's reasonable to support their own life, their goals, their happiness etc.

5 days ago | parent | prev [-]
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