| ▲ | bongodongobob 4 days ago |
| That's not really how Occam's razor works. The entire company colluding and lying to the public isn't "easy". Easy is more along the lines of "for some reason it is good at chess but we're not sure why". |
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| ▲ | simonw 4 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| One of the reasons I thought that was unlikely was personal pride. OpenAI researchers are proud of the work that they do. Cheating by calling out to a chess engine is something they would be ashamed of. |
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| ▲ | kibwen 4 days ago | parent [-] | | > OpenAI researchers are proud of the work that they do. Well, the failed revolution from last year combined with the non-profit bait-and-switch pretty much conclusively proved that OpenAI researchers are in it for the money first and foremost, and pride has a dollar value. | | |
| ▲ | fkyoureadthedoc 4 days ago | parent [-] | | How much say do individual researchers even have in this move? And how does that prove anything about their motivations "first and foremost"? They could be in it because they like the work itself, and secondary concerns like open or not don't matter to them. There's basically infinite interpretations of their motivations. |
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| ▲ | dogleash 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > The entire company colluding and lying to the public isn't "easy". Why not? Stop calling it "the entire company colluding and lying" and start calling it a "messaging strategy among the people not prevented from speaking by NDA." That will pass a casual Occam's test that "lying" failed. But they both mean the same exact thing. |
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| ▲ | TeMPOraL 4 days ago | parent [-] | | It won't, for the same reason - whenever you're proposing a conspiracy theory, you have to explain what stops every person involved from leaking the conspiracy, whether on purpose or by accident. This gets superlinearly harder with number of people involved, and extra hard when there are incentives rewarding leaks (and leaking OpenAI secrets has some strong potential rewards). Occam's test applies to the full proposal, including the explanation of things outlined above. |
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