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hilbert42 5 days ago

"It's clear that the most powerful militaries in the world (US, Russia, essentially China too) have declared the "rules-based world order" dead."

Correct, and that's what happened only about a decade after WWI—the War to End All Wars and look what happened.

I'm fearful history might repeat itself. It has a bad habit of doing so and often with unexpected twists.

com 5 days ago | parent [-]

Justice has to be declared as an essential principle of human organisation.

If the 1984 vision of a boot stamping on a human face forever is going to work out to be true, then so be it.

The ICJ is at least holding out against that future.

What will you (as a human) choose to do?

These days and years are going to be definitional I think.

ashoeafoot 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Justice is self hypnosis and self idealization that settles in when there is plenty to go around. If there isn't its just a threatening word , whose values is mostly "we get you all when the good times roll back around ." Which they usually don't do unless there are major scientific breakthroughs generating surplus and a amnesty after armistice.

com 4 days ago | parent [-]

Reflecting on these words, it’s clear that many people take a “realist” perspective on power in and between human societies, and see no reason at all to strive to create better conditions for all or even most humans.

My take: it’s a luxury position that probably only makes sense if you’ve been a winner in the birth lottery of the global elite. They are the enablers of power-for-power’s sake populists and dead-eyed bureaucrats because they are certain, at least until too late, that bad things won’t happen to them of their loved ones.

hilbert42 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"The ICJ is at least holding out against that future."

ICJ? Are you implying that what I said, implied or inferred was against the ICC?

Let me be clear, I nether said, meant nor inferred any of those things. In fact I'm in favor of the ICC despite the fact it's a paper tiger in areas where it's most needed.

Edit: that said, like many, I've some criticisms all of which other comments have echoed. Like most things the ICC is a compromise in an imperfect world, it's better than nothing though.

ben_w 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Merely getting "declared" is not enough — North Korea "declares" itself to be a democracy — what matters is actually doing it.

The relevance of the ICC etc. is rooted in how much people actually do, not just say.

com 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Apologies, typo, ICJ -> ICC