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seabass-labrax 5 days ago

Israel don't recognize the authority of the International Criminal Court. Palestine, however, does, and therefore the ICC consider these allegations within their jurisdiction. A relevant point is that the UK (under the previous Conservative party government) requested the opportunity to dispute the allegations of war crimes based on this complication, but the new British government did not choose to continue with the objection. No other countries have made objections.

bawolff 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

The challenge wasn't based on exactly that, they were trying to argue that a treaty palestine signed with israel precluded palestine from giving icc juridsiction that it didn't have itself.

That said, if it ever gets to trial, the defendants will almost certainly try to challenge it on that basis.

Realistically though i think the chance of that type of challenge succeding is unlikely. International courts generally are above domestic law. They probably have a better chance of convincing the court that palestine isn't a state and thus cannot sign the rome statue (which is also a long shot imo)

HappyPanacea 5 days ago | parent [-]

> Courts are political entities but this is one that Israel chose to accept and recognize the authority of.

They were replying to this part of the comment which was factually incorrect (Israel did not recognize ICC authority) not on what the challenge on jurisdiction was

loceng 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Good thing that's not how laws are formed - "your" not recognizing authority doesn't mean "you" haven't committed the war crimes or other illegal act that international organization has charged you with; so far it's worked that veto power can immediately suppress action even when the rest of the organized-civilized world is against you, where so far most international organizations have been for theatre - but where we have an opportunity for them to finally have teeth.

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immibis 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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bawolff 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Germany, the second biggest sponsor of mass slaughter (presently and historically) also claims to be bound by this court, but for some reason ignores it when it is in Israeli interests to do so.

When has germany ever ignored the ICC? I dont think there is a single instance of that, whether involving israel or otherwise.

seabass-labrax 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The government of Germany clearly prefer to side with Israel on any matter related to Palestine (or Lebanon for that matter), but in fairness it has taken this long for the ICC's prosecutor to bring a case. The real tests will begin if, for instance, Netanyahu visits Germany, because that will trigger an obligation for Germany to arrest him. There may of course already be domestic German laws which arms sales to Israel may be breaking, but as far as I'm aware Germany has only had a duty to cooperate with the ICC since the warrant was issued earlier today.