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cr__ 5 days ago

Why don’t we have reliable sources?

azinman2 5 days ago | parent [-]

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pphysch 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

To be clear, which side are you referring to?

azinman2 5 days ago | parent [-]

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pphysch 5 days ago | parent [-]

Yeah, I've heard all those official talking points a thousand times.

I've also seen Israeli officials openly dehumanizing and calling for the mass murder of Palestinians, and theft of their land. And I've seen the graphic results.

There's an undeniable reality here and sadly it doesn't align with your official government talking points.

azinman2 5 days ago | parent [-]

I’m not going to engage in this highly controversial topic, there’s nothing new going on here. But to call these government talking points is wild.

Go read hamas’s charter yourself: https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

ceejayoz 5 days ago | parent [-]

It's probably best to read the current version.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Hamas_charter

Otherwise, one has to reckon with the fact that Netanyahu's party's founding document doesn't look great, either, as it uses "from the river to the sea", which we're now told is a genocidal saying.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/original-party-platform...

"between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty"

jazzyjackson 5 days ago | parent [-]

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ceejayoz 5 days ago | parent [-]

> Guess what, Israel sovereignty allows for Arab and Muslim citizenship.

Sure, as did the American South during segregation.

Half of Israeli Jews support removal of the Arab population. https://forward.com/israel/335292/48-of-israeli-jews-back-ex...

> The converse can not be said for Jews in a Palestinian state.

Certainly. In "Hitler, Mao, or Stalin", the only winning move is not to play.