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zarzavat 5 days ago

Given that the accused is currently in control of the crime scene, it's not surprising that the prosecution chose to prioritise the crimes that are easiest to prove.

culi 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

The ICC does not state only 41 deaths ocurred. GP is pulling that number from an unrelated Wikipedia article that is undergoing an edit war. It went from "63k" to "41+". None of the commentors here justifying the low number realize its completely made up and unrelated to the ICC

jowea 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Same reason an warrant on Putin was issued over the official children "adoption" program.

exe34 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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PoignardAzur 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Alternate explanation: the ICC isn't making up the charges and Israel did commit war crimes and conceal them.

bbqfog 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's the ICC accusing Israel of war crimes.

iwontberude 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That’s the whole point of the Geneva convention is that wars cannot be won by any means.

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ClumsyPilot 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You are literally 1 step away from claiming nazis did nothing wrong

exe34 5 days ago | parent [-]

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ceejayoz 5 days ago | parent [-]

> are you claiming the British soldiers should have been risking their lives delivering food to the doorstep of the Germans

They did take precisely that risk to keep the civilian population of Europe from starving.

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/operation-man...

> One of the key agreements was that certain corridors would be “open,” allowing Allied airmen to fly through, with the promise from the Germans that they would not be fired upon by AAA. This promise, and the fact that the planes would be flying at 400 feet or below (for the safety of the parcels) certainly gave much for the crewmen to be worried about.

> Israel got the food to the ruling government in Gaza.

Israel is killing every representative of that ruling government they can find in Gaza. (Which is good, but presents a severe logistical challenge for your claim.)

exe34 4 days ago | parent [-]

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ceejayoz 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

> do you genuinely believe that this can be agreed upon with hamas

The Nazis weren't exactly notoriously friendly folks.

> that they will somehow spare those particular Jews that bring food to keep their human shields alive?

Perhaps this basic misconception explains a lot... Israelis aren't driving the aid trucks into/through Gaza. That's handled by NGOs; the UN, World Central Kitchen (when they're not being blown up by Israeli strikes, at least; https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/how-an-aid-convoy-in-gaza...), etc. Israel screens the trucks (slowly, if they feel like it) and sends them through.

> anyway your example shows the allies helping the allies

They did the same for occupied Germany, once it was occupied. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_in_occupied_Germany

exe34 4 days ago | parent [-]

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ceejayoz 4 days ago | parent [-]

By that logic, the US never occupied Iraq and Afghanistan.

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ClumsyPilot 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> do you genuinely believe that this can be agreed upon with hamas, and that they will somehow spare those particular Jews that bring food to keep their human shields alive?

Charity workers and UN staff workers were killed by Israel, not by Hamas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Central_Kitchen_aid_conv...

Israeli Citizens attack aid trucks:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg300jek94zo

Foreign Secretary of the United Kingdom had a row is Israeli ambassador due to Israel purposefully delaying food aid

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-aid-for-gaza-stuck-at-border-f...

ImPostingOnHN 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Article 55 of the 4th Geneva convention (to which Israel agreed [0]) obliges occupying powers to provide civilians with food and medical supplies [1]. Note that this does not mean simply allowing food past a border checkpoint, but extends to ensuring that it reaches the civilians in need [2].

0: https://treaties.un.org/Pages/showActionDetails.aspx?objid=0...

1: https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/gciv-1949/art...

2: https://www.ft.com/content/40d70b23-a88f-4cab-a730-af2ae3acc...

exe34 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Which article provides for the taking of civilian hostages and building terror tunnels under UN schools?

ImPostingOnHN 4 days ago | parent [-]

Fascinating question. Why ask me? The conventions are online for anybody to read, if they happen to be so inclined.

exe34 3 days ago | parent [-]

so they only found a dead guy to charge on the Palestine side - and you're telling me they're not just doing this for show?

ImPostingOnHN 3 days ago | parent [-]

If Israel wants a live terrorist to face ICC justice, why do they keep killing the candidates?

Are you sure this isn't just indignity at being the subject of a warrant?

exe34 2 days ago | parent [-]

the political leaders in Qatar/Turkey could easily be invited to the Hague.

ImPostingOnHN 2 days ago | parent [-]

You've ignored 3/3 of my questions in a row so far, as well as the initial point you responded to, which is sufficient evidence you will continue to do so. Until you do, I don't see any reason to further engage in such a 1-sided conversation. Have a nice day!

exe34 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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iwontberude 5 days ago | parent [-]

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exe34 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Sinwar had the stolen passport of a UN employee on him. if his body couldn't have been identified, you would have been providing support for hamas claiming that Israel was shooting school teachers. You think I'm the troll?

I don't disregard civilian lives - I want the war to be over asap. but ceasefire means both sides stop firing - not just the Jews.

what I don't understand is why so many people in the west today desperately want to believe every lie told by hamas/hezbollah/Iran. do you also believe Israel fired on Italian UN soldiers in Lebanon? because it turns out it was hezbollah who fired on them.

sealioning? is that projection? why do you ignore what i already wrote?

> At the risk of getting killed by Hamas? I don't think Israel has enough control of Gaza yet for this to apply.

iwontberude 2 days ago | parent [-]

Why are we primed to see things "Irans" way (nice ad hominem btw)? This is because we see Israel as an illegal, criminal and genocidal state which has existed as a way for Europe to exile an ethnic group that they were too hateful to accept at home. Europe, not just Nazis, have been terribly antisemitic. The healthy response to exclusive ethnic enclaves in Europe was assimilation and creation of an inclusive and robust European identity. European ethnostates instead wielded xenophobia to create a fascist state to hold Jews hostage in a middle eastern ghetto and serve as a beachhead for the west's thirst for oil which was discovered mere months before the plan to resettle Israel. I think Israel threatens our politicians livelihoods in all senses of the word and in return gets universal support for both major parties. It's not obvious to you?

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