| ▲ | echoangle 10 months ago |
| So why not just stay on the drugs? |
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| ▲ | diath 10 months ago | parent | next [-] |
| You technically could but the idea here is to cut the excess bodyfat percent and get into the healthy range, rather than to keep losing weight, which itself is also unhealthy, but once you become dependent on the drugs to maintain your weight, without fixing your habits, you will just go between getting off the drug, binge eating, gaining the weight back, and hoping back on the drug and losing weight while barely eating, I can't imagine bouncing between such two extremities being good for your health. |
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| ▲ | cthalupa 10 months ago | parent | next [-] | | Well, lots of people back off those dosages once they reach their goal weight and have minimal difficulty maintaining. As we know more about the long term effects of staying on the drug, it's totally possible it might make sense just to keep on it. But as someone who spent a good chunk of their early adulthood having no problem with healthy habits and then slowly slipping into tons of bad ones, getting on tirzepatide has made it as easy for me to make those healthy choices that I made when I was in my 20s. Ones that I struggled with mightily after I got fat. Hopefully more and more people will use them as a tool to help them get things back and order and then stay there, whether or not they keep taking it. | |
| ▲ | echoangle 10 months ago | parent | prev [-] | | Can’t you just adjust the dosage to stabilize? | | |
| ▲ | phil21 10 months ago | parent [-] | | Yes, you can. Or most people can. It’s called a maintenance dose and is usually the minimum dose available for the particular drug you are on. As these become more common and doctors more aware, the dosing guidelines will become much more nuanced and dialed in. |
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| ▲ | andbberger 10 months ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| $$$ |
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| ▲ | bluSCALE4 10 months ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Most kill you. If I didn't misread articles on ozempic, they can cause digestive problems where food rots in your stomach. Bad depression was another side effect which blows my mind since you'd think looking better would make you feel great. And these were the minor things. |
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| ▲ | cthalupa 10 months ago | parent | next [-] | | > digestive problems where food rots in your stomach I assume you mean gastroparesis - this is an extremely rare side effect > Bad depression Again, pretty rare side effect. If you think these are the minor things I'm confused as to what you think the major side effects are. | | |
| ▲ | Elinvynia 10 months ago | parent [-] | | Gastroparesis is literally the method of action of GLP1 agonists. It slows gastric motility. Gastroparesis is literally slowed motility of the stomach (where 20% of food stays in your stomach after 4 hours). It doesn't matter why, that is the literal diagnostic criteria, ergo it literally causes gastroparesis. | | |
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| ▲ | tokioyoyo 10 months ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I don't think you realize the amount of people have taken Ozempic or similar drug. I'm lucky enough that I haven't had issues with body weight, but if I believe the stats (and my observations in real world confirm it), about 15% of adults are on it. If it was "killing people", we would be seeing it literally everywhere. We're not talking about a small scale 50K+ observation... we're talking about literal millions. | | |
| ▲ | echoangle 10 months ago | parent | next [-] | | This says 6% are currently on a GLP-1 drug and 15% have ever taken one in their life: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/05/10/health/ozempic-glp-1-surv... | | |
| ▲ | tokioyoyo 10 months ago | parent [-] | | Fair, I remembered my stats wrong. But it's still 15M people in US that are actively on it. That's a lot of people. |
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| ▲ | bluSCALE4 10 months ago | parent | prev [-] | | Really just meant it kills you if you plan on using it as a lifelong solution. I don't have an obesity problem but if I did, this is one of those drugs I'd journal about daily to keep track of how it's affecting me. | | |
| ▲ | tokioyoyo 10 months ago | parent [-] | | Where is any source about it, other than “it just feels wrong, people shouldn’t cheat their way out of obesity”? Sorry for being obtuse, but I have very close friends for whom it changed their lives. |
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| ▲ | cyberax 10 months ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Bad depression was another side effect What? Ozempic has been noted for its mild _anti_ depression activity. | | |
| ▲ | adgjlsfhk1 10 months ago | parent [-] | | both can be true. it can reduce depression in 60% of people and increase it in 10% |
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