Can you give an example of an evidence-based pursuit of truth that was not in any way shaped by culture, power, or historical context?

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malwrar 8 months ago | parent [-]

The discovery of the atom? Huge cross-continental diverse group of humans of varying levels of power and privilege running successive experiments that led to our current atomic model.

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pinecamp 8 months ago | parent [-]

It seems to me like a lot of historical context would go into that discovery. You also mention power, privilege, and collaboration across continents.

All of these factors shape the process of doing science. I think it's an amazing (and beautiful!) thing that we can collaborate on such a scale.

Science is done by people, and I think it's silly to pretend that people can somehow operate in a way that's entirely removed from history and culture.

	▲	malwrar 8 months ago \| parent [-]
		> It seems to me like a lot of historical context would go into that discovery […] it's silly to pretend that people can somehow operate in a way that's entirely removed from history and culture. Certainly in terms of who was able to participate in the discovery, but I doubt the actual discovered structure was shaped much by the discoverers. Put another way, I would be absolutely fascinated to see other accurate greenfield formulations of an atomic model that do not resemble our current one which could have been invented by another set of possible discoverers enabled by fortune to pursue them. I think that the ideas defining the model comprise the “shape” of the discovery more than the discoverers themselves, who merely stumbled upon them and investigated.