▲ | dathinab 8 days ago | |
I'm happy with it (13" specific feedback, latest AMD gen, but I had the 11th gen Intel before). But if I can recommend it is a bit of a mostly yes but not soley yes thing. Some of the good parts: - can be repaired (I have a tendency for private laptops sliding of my bed or couch when I read something one them before going to bed so sadly I kind need that) - the casing is robust and as it's mostly metal instead of plastic will bend before instead splintering (which is somewhat repairable and/or means its still usable even after heavy drops from the desk on a corner, yes I'm embarrassed about what I did to that laptop over the recent years) - being able to charge it from both sides is absolutely awesome and probably has become for me a major must have buying condition - the 4 extension slots (13", more on the larger one) turned out to be enough for me, especially on my work desk I anyway have a KVM Switch+USB Hub combo wired into the desk - the USB C ports are robust (more so then on some Think pads), through even if they break you can fix them by replacing the extension port - the motherboard (13") and co are fine, BIOS (13") had been a bit wanky during early 11th gen days but now is just fine, some UEFI security fixes have been a bit slow but as long if you don't have some high security business use case it probably doesn't matter. Custom secure boot platform keys work perfectly fine (I use sbctl). - cooling (13") is fine, through if the system runs hot due to it's metal casing you might feel the heat at the bottom center where some of the fan slots are. But there are no heat issues at the top, or sides (including sides at the bottom) so mostly a non issue. (had been a bit of an issue with 11th gen Intel) - CPU isn't really framework specific nothing to say here, but it's best to collect some general information (e.g. amd has a tendency for slightly less reliable WLAN on Linux) - some people complain about weak hinges, but they made them a bit stronger and provide even stronger ones as replacement part. IMHO it's a non issue for many people except if you do work often in an environment where there is a lot of shaking or carry it while shaking and while it's open and the screen position changing being an issue. It wasn't an issue a few time I had been using it on a train or bus but it also hadn't been very "shaky" train/bus raids. - the angle of the lid is 180°, i.e. it can be opened until it's all flat on the desk. While this doesn't matter for many when using it it makes it harder to break the screen by overextending the lid in an accident - keyboard is fine, (but I would love if they had ThinkPad style arrow keys & home end buttons, in the end I remapped (in Linux) F9/F10 to Home/End - mousepad is fine, but I don't have high requirements there so maybe ignore that - fingerpint reader is okay, but I have seen better (not sure if it's a software of hardware issue) - you can upgrade it, but as most cost comes from the CPU+Motherboard+RAM and my last upgrade also involved going to a new generation of RAM you won't save much money. But at least all sticker on the lid stay around. - installation is quite easy and some past gotacha about keyboard cable length have been fixed I have heard, love how it opens up to the top - I love the screen ratio, but can't won't anything about the screen as I probably would go with the newest 4k screen if buying new. - camera & mic have separate off buttons which is nice - can't say much about the battery live I never ran into any issues but given how I use the laptop and how by now many trains have power ports I think I wouldn't run into any problems even with Laptops which for 2024 standards have mid-low battery life time. What is nice is that as far as I remember when the battery is full and connected to AC it bypasses the battery, so no unnecessary constant battery ware when using it long time in a dock or similar. While that should be the norm macs cheeped out and don't have that anymore. so all in all I'm pretty happy But the whole "it's repairable, and up-gradable part" isn't as big as it seems. I.e. like mentioned if you don't upgrade every generation the upgrade is likely not much cheaper then buying new (and why should you upgrade every generation). And while you can repair it for people which treat their laptop with care most damages will be either "very bad all broken" or "slightly cosmetic no repair needed", in a certain way for many users the most important part is that breaking you USB ports (of expansion cards) is trivially repairable, which in my experience is one of the main not trivially user repairable failure points of otherwise repairable Laptops (e.g. T series ThinkPads). I also heard someone playing with hardware dev messed up some wires and expected their motherboard to be fried, but only the USB-C expansion card was fried, so that can be clearly a plus, too. But as I currently don't do hardware dev and don't know what is in the USB-C expansion card I don't know if that was just luck. | ||
▲ | mariusor 7 days ago | parent [-] | |
> But the whole "it's repairable, and up-gradable part" isn't as big as it seems. I think a lot of that comes into play as second hand machines. Except very few models once you buy a laptop second-hand, you're stuck with an older quickly to be obsolete model. Not so for Frameworks. |