Yes, exactly! Also forced EU voters to consider how much they value these services, and whether the regulations are worth it not to have them, or to have watered down versions of them. I say this without judgment - I see it as a legitimate area of consideration.

I think the worst is hugely impactful laws for which exceptions are constantly carved out so nobody can truly evaluate whether the law/reg is a good one or not.

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shykes 27 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> Also forced EU voters to consider how much they value these services

It's been a while since I left Europe, and I'm rusty on that particular layer of civics. Do EU voters actually have a say in this kind of regulation? Or is it all decided on the executive side which is only accountable to member states and not to individual citizens?

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asdfasgasdgasdg 12 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

They do have a say. They can elect representatives who could change the legal framework and the incentives for the bureaucrats, or even remove the ability of the bureaucrats to regulate certain things. Then these regulations would not get passed and that would be that.

	▲	eastbound a few seconds ago \| parent [-]
		We have a say at a 4th level of derived decision, which is 2 levels more than what people call a democracy. Also, the other political party will do it too. = We don’t have a say. We voted NO to the new EU treaties in 2008 and the new president decided that electing him meant that we approved the same treaties. They only let us vote when we agree, anyway.

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christkv 20 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

None. The EU is getting more and more un democratic by the year. More power centralized in the bureaucracy vis regulations and other mechanisms.

	▲	solid_fuel 9 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		You have anything to back up that claim, or is it just knee-jerk drivel with no evidence based on your feelings and distrust of scary government bureaucrats?

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redviperpt 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

EU "voters" don't get a say in any of this.

	▲	yxhuvud 3 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		What are you talking about, DMA has passed in the parliament.

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slekker 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I value them a lot, happy that the EU didnt bend down to Apple.

If it werent for the EU, the companies would get away with all sorts of shit.

Is as if people forget companies are evil by nature and will fuck you any chance they get.

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thesmtsolver2 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Meanwhile: EU pushing to snoop on private chats and US companies are pushing back.

	▲	junto an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Where do you think that lobbying money is coming from?

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viktorcode an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm curios what kind of shit specifically DMCA protects you from?

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wtb04 34 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I think you mean DMA, not DMCA. DMCA mostly protects copyright holders. DMA is about protecting users and competitors from platform lock-in. Bending for Apple would just make that lock-in harder to challenge.

	▲	duskwuff 30 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		DMCA provides some rather important protection for service providers (including small-scale services like web forums, not just ISPs and web hosts) - it makes them not liable for copyright violations by their users, so long as they take down infringing content upon receipt of a DMCA notice. But I agree, that's probably not what OP meant.

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troupo an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

"Let's discuss how countries should bend their knee before supranational corporations"