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solenoid0937 2 hours ago

Most of these indexes are made by ideologically motivated people.

In the UK you get thrown in prison for making a slightly unfriendly tweet. Freedom of speech simply does not exist.

No sane person sees that as being less authoritarian.

JustSkyfall 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> In the UK you get thrown in prison for making a slightly unfriendly tweet.

Do you? The closest thing I can think about is how someone was jailed for encouraging arson attacks on asylum hotels. I'd be extremely surprised if the US had zero cases of somebody receiving a police visit after threatening to kill the President or bomb a school or something...

(FWIW I do think the UK needs stronger free speech protections, but saying that you'll be immediately jailed for writing unfriendly tweets is a huge stretch)

BoorishBears an hour ago | parent [-]

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/select-communications-off...

Are they really making 12,000 arrests a year over tweets and posts?

10xDev 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>the quality of discussion on HN has gone to shit, i miss when model released used to have actual informed takes from people that used them or substantive discussion about the system card

Your comment earlier.

Edit: also, not much change in the last 10 years in prison population. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn04...

solenoid0937 an hour ago | parent [-]

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/select-communications-off...

12k people a year thrown in prison for spicy tweets

starshadowx2 43 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

That is not a true statement.

Here's a good break down and explanation of what that number actual means - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB3WVygAM8I

10xDev an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So roughly 0.017% of the population.

"Spicy tweets" including:

sending false communications

sending threatening communications

sending or showing flashing images electronically to people with epilepsy intending to cause them harm (‘epilepsy trolling’)

encouraging or assisting serious self-harm

sending a photograph or film of a person’s genitals (‘cyberflashing’)

sharing or threatening to share intimate photographs or film

solenoid0937 32 minutes ago | parent [-]

Or a lot more commonly - critique of immigration policy

10xDev 2 minutes ago | parent [-]

You are obviously invested in this narrative driven by Musk but you need to back it up properly.

dgellow an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

That link says “12k arrests”, not thrown to prison! It’s also not clear how reliable that data is