| ▲ | McDyver 2 hours ago |
| It goes to show that privacy is not a priority. And it should be. |
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| ▲ | anon7000 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| No, this is unrelated from privacy. The issue is that the EU won’t allow the new Siri because Apple isn’t willing to open up the system enough for 3rd party AI agents to get the same functionality. |
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| ▲ | butlike 9 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Because Siri is the brand and other competitors will dilute the brand with their inferior products, is the line of reasoning, I'm sure. I'm unclear on why apple is branding the AI launcher or whatever if it's just going to be a wrapper for a third party product, however. | |
| ▲ | dd8601fn an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Functionally the EU is requiring that Apple dramatically RELAX their privacy and security postures. I’m sure Apple doesn’t want to cave and give OpenAI free access to the spotlight semantic db, the ability see what’s on your screen at all times, etc. | | |
| ▲ | inetknght an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > Functionally the EU is requiring that Apple dramatically RELAX their privacy and security postures. No. Interoperability doesn't require Apple relax their privacy and security postures. It could instead require third parties to improve theirs. | |
| ▲ | microtonal an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Same as you wouldn't want every app to read your contacts or location. If we only had something to do that. </s> |
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| ▲ | MBCook an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Which I would argue is HARDER to do while preserving privacy. |
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| ▲ | rvnx 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Part of it is also a certification circus. For example, with Copilot, you get a contractual pinky promise that they cannot access your data. Can engineers really not access ? Can the police really not access ? It's like AirTag for example. Apple cannot access it because it's scientifically "impossible" by design, but if they sign-in to your account, well it's over. Once Apple fills the right audit / certification / paperwork they will be able to enable that feature. It could also be a negotiation lever. |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > privacy is not a priority Isn’t this less about privacy than competition? |
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| ▲ | m3kw9 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| EU privacy laws are not there to protect your privacy, its there because the law makers don't know how modern privacy works and wants their name on the law so it seems they did something. |
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| ▲ | adrianN 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I think you should elaborate a bit on that because to me it seems that EU privacy laws are actually fairly good at protecting privacy. | |
| ▲ | flumpcakes 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | EU has some of the best consumer protection and privacy laws on the planet. | | |
| ▲ | m3kw9 an hour ago | parent [-] | | Their laws are basically the equivalent of if there is no code, there are no bugs. EU laws forces citizens to get no new tech, privacy preserved. | | |
| ▲ | microtonal an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Uhm no, EU privacy laws are actually pretty simple: do not collect data you don't need without asking consent from a user first. Which should IMO be the basic principle worldwide. But unfortunately in many countries, companies are more powerful than governments/regulators, so they get to grab everything they can get their hands on. | |
| ▲ | izacus an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Man, if we had computers in EU we'd be really angry at your dumb false posts. |
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