I wasn't taking blatant fraud into account. I'm sure that's possible everywhere. I'd bet you can buy cigarettes without the tax stamps in the same shop too.

Last I traveled the shop required a passport or uploading one to get an eSIM ahead of time.

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joxdosba 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Sure, but if you’re a tourist in e.g. Barcelona trying to get a prepaid SIM, odds are the shopkeeper will not ask you for your ID despite being required to.

> Last I traveled the shop required a passport or uploading one to get an eSIM ahead of time.

Sounds like you went to a carrier boutique and not one of the million independent shops.

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naturalmovement 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I would think most tourists would trust a carrier-branded store over Honest Jochen's Tobacco Emporium where you may or may not get a working SIM after paying cash.

	▲	joxdosba 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Trust? Sure. They’re still more likely to buy their prepaid SIM from the shop that also sells bongs, they are on every corner after all.

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lifestyleguru 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not a good example. In Spain they notoriously demand id/passport and make photo or copy of it, they do it "for the police".

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joxdosba 2 hours ago | parent [-]

That’s the legal requirement yes, I’ve never seen a shop insist on it. Most of them have autofill scripts for the KYC forms.

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naturalmovement 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Isn't the main topic of discussion here a legal requirement?

If everyone ignores it then what's the fuss about?

	▲	joxdosba 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I’m just pointing out that in Europe the equivalent legal requirement is widely ignored, the same won’t necessarily repeat in the US, but it might.