| ▲ | rirze 3 hours ago |
| Fundamentally un-American. That being said, many countries across the world already do this to eliminate burner phones. And many messaging apps require a phone number anyways so this basically locks down anonymous messaging through a phone. |
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| ▲ | rockskon 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Well - it's not exactly a surprise that all these non-American countries engage in un-American practices. It's much more concerning when said practices are undertaken by the U.S. Just because other countries do something isn't a justification to bring the practice into the U.S. despite that being a justification used with increasing prevalence these days. |
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| ▲ | cwillu 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | American exceptionalism was always a lie; name an “un-American” practice, and I'll show you a piece of American foreign policy. | | |
| ▲ | brightball 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Violations of the US Bill of Rights. Yes they occur. Yes the US does it. Every violation of it should have lost in court already but courts have a way of interpreting things based on their beliefs rather than original intent. | |
| ▲ | mindslight 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | A lie, or an ideal to try and live up to, depending on the context. In the context of discussing liberty-destroying privacy invasions it's an ideal, and we should not be so quick to dismiss it. |
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| ▲ | cucumber3732842 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | >Just because other countries do something isn't a justification to bring the practice into the U.S. I need to know whether these other countries are rich western europe before I know whether to agree with you or to cook up some snide rebuttal. Joking, obviously. And by "joking" I mean mocking a specific type of person and set of beliefs that is who is a) bad b) too common around here. |
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| ▲ | axus 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Free, anonymous political speech is the bedrock of American freedom. Also, guns |
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| ▲ | IAmBroom 10 minutes ago | parent [-] | | America, where the Amendments to the Constitution start counting at "2". Also, apparently ends there, too. |
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| ▲ | em-bee 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| there still are a bunch of viable messaging apps/services that work without a phone number: matrix, wire, deltachat, threema, maybe jabber/xmpp (depends on their support of encryption). any others? |
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| ▲ | kgwxd 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > many messaging apps require a phone number But not all, so what's the actual point? |
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| ▲ | rirze 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | If a messaging app ever gets the attention of government regulators, it must succumb to this verification. I don't know any way to avoid this. |
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