These two sentences hit home:

> The flow of data was so hard to follow, it seemed like someone was trying to cover up a murder.

> Just getting the code to run on your laptop took a week.

I always thought I’m the only one having problem understanding the data flow, or setting up a proper dev environment. Impostor syndrome (and sometimes toxic environments that pushed for “velocity”) didn’t help either.

Felt good to know I’m not the one.

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eqmvii 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> Just getting the code to run on your laptop took a week.

This one surprised me. Claude Code in the CLI has made standing up an app and debugging whatever random dependencies or docker BS a dream compared to the before times, when you'd have to learn the architecture while simultaneously troubleshooting whatever isn't working on your machine

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Lord_Zero 4 hours ago | parent [-]

And in the before times, you learned a lot and walked away with knowledge on the deps needed, connections, .env secrets, and cleaned it all up and documented it so the next dev would have an easier time doing it.

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fooster 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah, that totally didn't happen the majority of the time.

	▲	bigstrat2003 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yes it did. That's how I learned a great many things throughout my career. I'm sure some people didn't pay attention or try to understand what they were doing, and didn't learn. That's on them. But most of us learned a lot that way.

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giraffe_lady 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Bullshit I just pasted random shit from google in until it worked and then instantly forgot which combination of the 20 things I tried got it there.

	▲	prerok 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Indeed, there were plenty of people doing just that. I imagine they get the most out of vibe coding. However, when it became a problem, an engineer was still required to fix it. It might have been you, a couple of months later, or someone else. I have dealt with slop produced by unknowing programmers most of my career. With this vibe coding I think my job is still safe. The amount, though, is increasing exponentially.