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throwaway27448 5 hours ago

I imagine Israel's various hasbara operation dwarfs its relevance and funding by multiple orders of magnitude. I don't see much evidence it plays a role outside of being useful to blame for inconvenient discourse.

vintermann 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sure, but that's a good example. They obviously push pro-Israel, anti-Palestinian and probably a good deal of outright anti-Muslim positions.

But do you think they push random divisive issues, unrelated to their own interests, just to destabilize countries they don't like? I think the evidence for that is much weaker.

MSFT_Edging 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They certainly benefit from the division in the states. A large majority of AIPAC funding comes from American Evangelical groups. Why wouldn't they?

There's no doubt in my mind that there's a constant effort to keep it that way.

There's entire apps designed to organize brigading efforts online: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/01/24/gaza-is...

trumpdong 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That wouldn't really make sense for Israel. They don't want America to be destabilised. They want it stable and supporting them. Same for European countries. They want Palestine and Iran unstable, but they've already achieved that through other means.

inglor_cz 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

For a country of 8 million to "dwarf by multiple orders of magnitude" a country of 140 million in almost anything requires very lively imagination indeed.

Soft power operations are hard to measure. You cannot measure the impact of Israeli activities either.

throw9404048 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Why would you even need to measure? There are precedents.

VKomtakte social network was blocked because owners were russian, and there could interfere in internal affairs.

Why not block facebook? Its ownership has clear ties to Israel and it DOES interfere in elections and democratic process!