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Microsoft's open source tools were hacked to steal passwords of AI developers(techcrunch.com)
233 points by raffael_de 4 hours ago | 97 comments
_pdp_ 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What follows next is purely speculation and it is based on my own observations and thoughts but based on what I've seen the old RBAC models, while being almost broken before, now it is fully broken, with the fact that now coding assistants and engineers are working on multiple unrelated projects simultaneously - especially working on wild experiments they had no time for previously. The risk of supply chain issue has increased dramatically in the enterprise.

Again, I am not saying it is related but I think it has an impact.

Now in many places it is encouraged by coders and managers to vibe stuff on their own devices. Soon or later it will become a problem, especially for those that have no idea what they are doing.

I am not saying it is related but I feel that it coincides perfectly.

I just cannot believe there is no underlaying thread going through all of these recent supply chain issues, and yes there are some hacking groups that specialise in this, sure, but it is because the bounty is plentiful.

watty 19 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Just to clarify, and I know you weren't saying they are related, but this has absolutely nothing to do with AI or vibe coding or manager code.

It's a continuation of the Shai Halud worm and the lack of security around developer dependnecy installations, which has existed for a very long time.

Hackers have figured out that developers themselves are an ideal target due to how easy it is to trick them into installing something and how much private information they have on their machines (creds, cloud clis, mcps, etc.).

altairprime 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I argued for years that we had too few workers for our total project count and management argued that most projects were idle and so it was fine to have so many per worker.

Welp.

_pdp_ 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I think web-based IDEs like GitHub Codespaces (but even VSCode with tunnels) is part of the solution because at the very least you can get an isolated dev environment per project. I've been advocating for this for as long as I remember.

Unfortunately, most developers don't like them so it is a though sell.

fc417fc802 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Why would I ever want to use a browser based solution instead of local VMs? If you're worried about VM escapes then you have bigger problems (and hopefully a full time security team supporting you).

63stack an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why do most developers not like it? Is it because the browser is a terrible platform for text editors since there is no proper key mapping, or access to proper debuggers, or there is too much latency, and no access to cli tools?

You make it sound like you are surprised, but everyone who has tried this knows it's crap and a band aid at best.

greggroth 36 minutes ago | parent [-]

I hope folks know they can use Codespaces in their desktop editor. I never use the web editor.

domh 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Web-based IDEs like VSCode on github just had a 1-click github token stealing vulnerability: https://blog.ammaraskar.com/github-token-stealing/

You could argue this is probably on GitHub for creating a token here that gives blanket access to all repos vs a scoped token for just the repo.

altairprime 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Is the theory here that the browser cannot be co-opted to infect web-based repositories? Also: thinking of how yt-dlp can integrate with browser cookies now and the malware paths that opens up. (This is part of why Chrome wants HSM cookies, I expect: DRM and opsec!)

_pdp_ 2 hours ago | parent [-]

In this scenario the malware will not be on the device but in an isolated dev environment on a remote machine. So it will have access to whatever was configured in that repo but hopefully the project is isolated enough to ensure containment and prevent cross-pollination.

repelsteeltje an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I don't think the cloud (someone else's computer) is the best solution. The sanitation problem can be mitigated by compartimentization but the cloud aspect also adds brittleness and new attack vectors.

Why not set up proper containers (or VMs) locally? And why not wait a little till local LLMs catch up?

Maybe just a personal itch, but having your dev environment elsewhere feels so gross to me..

altairprime an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

That’s a big, labor-expensive if.

black_knight 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do you mean that role based access control (RBAC) should be replaced by something else? Or that just the specific RBAC models in use are broken?

I personally think the, perhaps confusingly named, capability based security models are the way of The Future.

wartywhoa23 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Now in many places it is encouraged by coders and managers to vibe stuff on their own devices. Soon or later it will become a problem, especially for those that have no idea what they are doing.

Idiots must suffer.

sourcecodeplz 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

one could also vibe-code vanilla, no dependencies.

_pdp_ 3 hours ago | parent [-]

You can vibe code safely for sure.

I am not saying vibe coding is the issue. The issue is that a typical developer might be working on a lot more projects that run concurrently then they used to. And because of the various nature of the project the risk is significantly increased.

Scale this across the workforce and you not just doubled the problem.

Grimburger an hour ago | parent [-]

You can vibecode docs and tests also but I'm truly not seeing more of those.

In the end it can just be a culture thing. A dev who was going to write docs and tests before is going to have a LLM generate docs and tests today. Same with safe practices and defensive coding. The machine does whatever you want from it, for most that's "just get the job done I don't care". So that's the output.

JdeBP 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

These seem related:

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48418318 (The Blight Reaches Microsoft: 73 Repos Disabled in 105 Seconds)

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48450543 (Miasma Worm Hits Microsoft Again: Azure Functions Action and 72 Other Repositories Disabled After Supply Chain Attack Targeting AI Coding Agents)

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48416155

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48416269 (Miasma Worm Targets AI Coding Agents via GitHub Repos)

bob1029 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I strongly suspect this is a case of classic personal access tokens being used in an unclean way.

If you are going to be handing tokens to AI agents on weird openclaw contraptions, you should try to use the fine grained variants. My GitHub account spans 3 organizations with wildly differing policies. The fact that classic tokens are even still allowed blows my mind a bit. You should be required to manually opt in each organization at a minimum.

red_admiral an hour ago | parent | next [-]

It feels to me like AI agents should be their own security principals and use access tokens generated speficically for them on the repos or orgs that they need access to. Handing an AI agent an access token "minted" for a human's account feels to me like the new "write the password on a post-it".

Klathmon 21 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

This is what I'm advocating for.

Give each dev's AI agent its own identity with its own access controls and tokens and everything.

It helps solve both the access control and attribution issues

silon42 27 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not just AI agents... basically, if you cd Projects/foo, that should be it's own user (for running npm, etc) that should not have access to parent user data (probably including github tokens, etc).

notnaut an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

As long as there’s a way to deterministically tie a model call to a human user. I think a loss of culpability is something some companies are afraid of to some extent.

etiennebausson an hour ago | parent [-]

Loss of liability is what company are built for, see the meaning of LLC as an exemple.

Of course, it is only their employees that are impacted instead of their bottom line, they might be more tolerant?

test20201 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You are correct but the issue is permission management with finegrained tokens is nighmare. It is not easy to decide what is correct and what is needed for some operation. Furthermore, often software devs think it is important to focus on code rather than permissions - as it is for someone else's responsibility....

trumpdong an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I use classic tokens on low-privileged accounts for scraping public repos. I suppose organization level permissions would work fine for me.

bilekas 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The phrasing of the title is loaded and the content phrases it as some kind of fault of open source.

Then, which I find the most amusing, proceeds to blame MicroSlop for the attempted suuply chain attack,

> Microsoft did not immediately provide the specific number of customers affected, when asked by TechCrunch.

Yeah, because that's how open source works. Tech crunch doing hard work no not explain that.

> This is Microsoft’s second known breach over the past few weeks that has allowed hackers to compromise its open source projects, per Ars Technica.

I, like many others love to knock on Microslop when I can, but in this case they did the right thing. The article phrases it like they did everything wrong, they're all at fault and shame on them for limiting the breach.

This is not the first time I've seen an article from Zack Whittaker that just rubbed me the wrong way.

> steal passwords of AI developers

This phrasing has it's own connotations. AI developers versus developers who use AI?

> This is the latest example in recent months of hackers breaching widely popular open source projects with the aim of planting malware on a large number of users who have the code installed on their computers. These hacks are known as “supply chain” attacks as they target code that is often used in a large number of software products, or by a specific kind of user, which may be advantageous to hack as they sometimes have access to cloud systems and large amounts of customers’ data.

Describes literally nothing of what a supply chain attack is, just the result of one and the reasons for their attack surface.

Very very bad reporting in my opinion. Bad breach, and I hate to admit M$ did the safe and right thing, but this 'reporting' leaves a lot to be desired.

dgellow 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

TechCrunch is very sloppy and unreliable. I’ve seen them reporting on things I worked on where they just invented facts for SEO purpose and there is no way to get them to correct

sourcegrift 44 minutes ago | parent [-]

Which is worse tc or verge? Verge does similar making up of facts.

raffael_de 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What's your post mortem, then? As in - what happened and how should it be read?

bilekas 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Microsoft's open source projects the target of a supply chain attack and they decided to restrict access to understand and limit exposure ? Something a little more 'true' and less targetted?

philipwhiuk 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Azure are able to be targets of supply chain attack because of the supply chain ecosystem that they still own. It's not really a supply chain when it's still yours.

bilekas 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> It's not really a supply chain when it's still yours.

I don't personally buy that, they offer a package manager in the form of nuget for example, if their products there are compromised, they're well withing normal reach to block THEIR packages, but why would they need to block the rest ?

Maybe I'm missing something dumb

philipwhiuk 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> > This is Microsoft’s second known breach over the past few weeks that has allowed hackers to compromise its open source projects, per Ars Technica.

> I, like many others love to knock on Microslop when I can, but in this case they did the right thing.

I've no idea what your problem with this sentence is. They have an organisational security problem, aided/demonstrated by lack of effort to effectively lockdown GitHub Actions and allowing MRs to circumvent CI/CD.

That this is a Microsoft problem that was present pre-AI is not up for debate. See https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/2025-03/CSRBReviewO...

In the age of AI, it's now endemic and being weaponised.

bilekas 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> That this is a Microsoft problem that was present pre-AI is not up for debate. See https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/2025-03/CSRBReviewO...

No argument from me, but what would you have them do in the immediate timeframe ?

protoman3000 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And we trust these people with the root CA cert in our Secure Boot?

shakna 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You mean the company that failed their 2023 security review? [0]

> Individually, any one of the failings described above might be understandable. Taken together, they point to a failure of Microsoft’s organizational controls and governance, and of its corporate culture around security.

Microsoft’s products and services are ubiquitous. It is one of the most important technology companies in the world, if not the most important. This position brings with it utmost and global responsibilities. It requires a security-focused corporate culture of accountability, which starts with the CEO, to ensure that financial or other go-to-market factors do not undermine cybersecurity and the protection of Microsoft’s customers.

> Unfortunately, throughout this review, the Board identified a series of operational and strategic decisions that collectively point to a corporate culture in Microsoft that deprioritized both enterprise security investments and rigorous risk management. These decisions resulted in significant costs and harm for Microsoft customers around the world.

> The Board is convinced that Microsoft should address its security culture.

[0] https://www.cisa.gov/resources-tools/resources/CSRB-Review-S...

ZeroWidthJoiner an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The root of trust in Secure Boot is typically an OEM certificate, not Microsoft's, which is probably even worse: https://www.binarly.io/blog/pkfail-untrusted-platform-keys-u...

In any case, you're free to remove Microsoft's certificates and enroll your own.

justinclift 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

More like "forced to accept" rather than "trust".

This latest event just continues Microsoft's track record of being a security problem rather than having their shit together. :(

sunaookami 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No one should be foolish enough to trust Microsoft with anything regarding security. They showed time and time again over the past 40 years that they don't care.

trumpdong 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Have you bought a PC in the last 10 years? Then it came with Microsoft's secure boot keys on it. Sometimes it's not even possible to remove or disable them. Sometimes you actually need a Microsoft-signed bootloader shim to boot anything that isn't Microsoft.

AdamN 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What do you mean 'we'? :-)

ashishb 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nobody should do 'npm install' or 'pip install' on their machine.

Using a proper sandboxing(https://github.com/ashishb/amazing-sandbox) regularly will drastically limit the blast radius of these attacks.

8organicbits 14 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Is there a detection component here too? Sandboxing development is great, but the next step is to deploy to production. How do you know if something malicious happened in the sandbox, such that you don't deploy the malware further?

pritambaral 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> https://github.com/ashishb/amazing-sandbox

Does your Docker backend run commands in rootless containers? I skimmed the code but didn't see anything to confirm this.

graemep 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Nobody should do 'npm install' or 'pip install' on their machine.

What alternative do you suggest?

Do you mean not install outside a sandbox?

progx an hour ago | parent | next [-]

alias npm / bun / ... to run in a docker container, so npm install run automatically in the container.

themafia 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Download source. Extract. Move files to correct node_modules folder.

If your distribution requires more than this, then it's not really a module, or combines too many non-modular components, and should be distributed differently.

The ability for npm to run scripts on any level should be removed.

Then we can go back to worrying about namespacing issues.

63stack an hour ago | parent | next [-]

You discovered what web development was like in early 2000.

dist-epoch 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If an attacker can infect the post-install script of an npm package, they can also infect the package source code itself. So if you ever run the project outside the sandbox, you will still get compromised.

It's like saying "I don't trust a software app with an installer, I just want a .zip with the binaries from the same source that I will run myself"

themafia an hour ago | parent [-]

> they can also infect the package source code itself

Which is where the concept of "safe levels" come in. I should be able to install this module in such a way where file operations and process operations are not available to it. That being said, presumably, this types of infiltration would seem to be _much_ easier to spot. "Why is this web framework calling 'spawn'?"

> I just want a .zip with the binaries

I want a .zip with the _code_. Just the code. None of the packaging nonsense. My distribution can handle that.

dist-epoch an hour ago | parent [-]

do you really think you will see a clear "spawn" call? there is a long history of obfuscating what the code does to hide backdoors, in quite ingenious ways

> I should be able to install this module in such a way where file operations and process operations are not available to i

technically browser sandboxes, WASM, do this. but then you are very limited since you can only sandbox the whole app, and not one module, so if you need local file access, you need to open it up to the whole app and all it's modules

haute_cuisine 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Please, someone explain how it's possible to add obfuscated file to so many repositories? Do they don't have any code reviews?

Also, the title is misleading, setup adds config to be auto executed by people who work on the repo. They would have to use vscode/cursor/claude/gemini. People who use codex / opencode / other harnesses are safe I guess.

Details: https://www.stepsecurity.io/blog/miasma-worm-hits-microsoft-...

axegon_ 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Do they don't have any code reviews?

I have a good friend that works for one of the giants(I can't say which one for obvious reasons but S&P 500). He's been working there for quite a while now, so far he hasn't seen what the project he works on looks like, has the repo cloned and knows what language is used but nothing beyond that. Everything is slopped together. His project is the authentication and authorization system for all the company products. In his own words "I hit Tab all day long and write 'this is intended' in the reviews, which are all ai, there is no human in the loop. This is what we are told to do by the CEO and CTO unironically. If something breaks, no one knows how any of this works since no one has seen the actual code. Our performance reviews are based on how many tokens we've used, not what we have done". I suspect this is the case in many companies now so it's not unreasonable to think that there are no actual code reviews.

LastTrain 26 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> have a good friend that works for one of the giants(I can't say which one for obvious reasons but S&P 500).

I can’t think of any obvious reason other than this being embellished / made up? Those companies have tens of thousands of employees you aren’t going to “out” anyone by naming the company.

axegon_ 13 minutes ago | parent [-]

I have a fair share of OSINT experience, be it as a hobby. The fact that I said S&P 500 and what his department does, that he is hired as a developer, I've already narrowed it down to several thousand people. Add the company name and you can narrow it down to a few dozens at most. And you can keep deducing further till you narrow it down to one or two.

trumpdong 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

the reasons are not obvious. I want to avoid their products.Does anyone else *cough* who has a throwaway account know the place?

axegon_ an hour ago | parent [-]

At this point, I suspect that is just about every tech company. Your best bet is to self-host everything, no agents, no cloud services, completely locked up home network and a loaded shotgun if anything starts making unexpected noises.

vorticalbox 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

if an account with the ability to push to the repo was taken over, there wouldn't be any PR review.

zihotki 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And the best recommendation security teams can give - keep your SBOM strict, use min release age policy (sounds more like band-aid). That's a scary world to live in.

wolfi1 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

a friend of mine has a very different solution: he codes everything by hand. he says that the time you need to research to include a new package you can actually use to code the piece you need. and he for sure doesn't have the problems of transitive dependencies

supernes an hour ago | parent | next [-]

That's been happening to me more often too recently. I find that, for a growing number of simple problems, reinventing the wheel is faster and more efficient than importing a mature, fully-featured dependency.

nicce 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Depending of the scenario, it can be very fine. E.g. if you just need one or two function call from the dependency. However, for some complex binary protocols it might be better to stick with libraries.

dgellow 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I assume that means he genAIs all his deps? Rather than writing by hand

hsbauauvhabzb 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

But now he needs to develop, test and maintain that code. Left pad is easily hand coded, react framework not so much.

wolfi1 2 hours ago | parent [-]

his projects were GUIs for machines (HMI)

nicce 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> keep your SBOM strict

Based on the news, seems like it is better to not include Microsoft at all in there.

minraws 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Remember folks Microsoft has Mythos access

raincole 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> steal passwords of AI developers

What does this even mean?

The malware specifically steals passwords from developers who use AI? From those who develop AI tool? Or it steals API tokens, which serve a similar function as passwords do for humans?

Is this what journalism looks like today? Just slap the two holy letters on the title and you get views?

(Yes, I read the article. No, I still don't think the title makes sense. You can skip this techchurch slop and read the real information here: https://opensourcemalware.com/blog/miasma-reaches-azure)

Ukv 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

https://www.stepsecurity.io/blog/miasma-worm-hits-microsoft-... mentions that it plants `.claude/settings.json`, `.gemini/settings.json`, `.cursor/rules/setup.mdc`, and `.vscode/tasks.json` to execute its payload as a setup task.

VSCode will be used by plenty of non-AI-using developers, and the credential harvester is not specific to AI API tokens, but that 3/4 of the targets are AI coding tools is I assume where the claim comes from.

trumpdong an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> you can skip the slop and read the real information here: (link that is obviously written by AI)

sourcecodeplz 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Do I remember correctly when techcrunch was charging $10k per month for a square banner on its website, 2005? And that was considered the top, for a tech blog. Even then they posted slop.

abc3354 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"No way to prevent this" say users of only package manager where this... Oh no sorry I thought this was Javascript Haters weekly meetup

axus 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Their source has the list of the 73 disabled repositories: https://opensourcemalware.com/blog/miasma-reaches-azure

antiloper 4 hours ago | parent [-]

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sph 2 hours ago | parent [-]

There is such a thing as too much software.

trumpdong 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Indeed. Every line of code is like a liability, but managers suddenly decided to stack rank developers based on number of lines of code written, again, which is like ranking aircraft designs by how heavy they are.

jbverschoor 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Note that also the homebrew-tap was affected: homebrew-functions

axegon_ 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I hate to be the "I told you" guy but... I told you and have been for years. And every time I do, a flock of sloppers come to say "but have you tried the claude sloppus, it's so good man, I haven't written any code in X months". Well.. Enjoy.

devilfileprong an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Waze can be a psi to vibe code vanilla at the end of the day or bubblesort (RBAC) Knit365,the clippy knitting assistant support hotline can hotnet to mortal Kombat as k2tog Cymux,we lost the Sigint.

yossufyahia 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It actually feels like nothing is safe now every day you hear about hacking is it from the ai making development weak or ai is getting strong in hacking

Zolomon 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It was never safe to begin with, that is why the security community has been screaming for resources since the 80s.

trumpdong an hour ago | parent [-]

If the security community had unlimited resources you wouldn't be able to do very much with computers. Security and usability are opposite ends of a spectrum. Either you can do a lot (usability) or you can do little (security).

dude250711 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The Age of Agentic Development.

sph 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I haven’t worked on any web app in months, I don’t use LLMs, I update my Linux system once a month, and I increasingly feel I should just not do anything, not install or update any software and for the love of God, do not touch anything that’s shipped with npm.

Most of my userspace apps are in Flatpak sandboxes (yeah they are not great), but otherwise it feels like isolation and airgapping is the most sensible solution for now, and it’ll get increasingly worse unless the vibe coders somehow learn how to write robust software.

It’s like during the black plague: the (software) world has become dangerous, we have no way to contain it, it is unfeasible to remove yourself completely from the world, so you better pray really hard you don’t catch the bug and infect your peers. How’s that for a field we used to call software engineering or computer science?

shevy-java 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

GitHub keeps on having problems a LOT in the last months.

Skynet is winning now.

pluc an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you want to be taken seriously, don't use Windows.

ares623 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

guys. what the fuck. are we even doing.

nDRDY 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

We are ever-faster approaching the Anti Singularity, the moment when everything "tech" implodes and progress screeches to a halt.

narrator 3 hours ago | parent [-]

What if this is "The Great Filter?" [Ominous music plays in the background]

natebc 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

We've got a few candidates for that on the go and this is for sure one of them.

aaaronic an hour ago | parent [-]

It's not like they're mutually exclusive. In fact, multiple candidates seem to be quite sympathetic in their feedback loops.

RetroTechie an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

That would be when we've automated stuff to the point where [machinery breaking down] causes a large majority of humans to die from starvation.

And then go on to repeat that mistake by re-building without using the lessons from previous catastrophe(s).

Sadly that last part sounds fairly common for humans... 8-|

So yeah. Maybe. Possible.

christophilus 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Downloading OpenBSD and going off-grid. How about you?

larodi 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

getting deeper and deeper. the question is what goes one when breaches reach opensource-based stuff running nuclear reactors. i'd be concerned.

trumpdong an hour ago | parent [-]

People say nuclear reactors are completely safe if properly constructed and operated and the waste danger is overblown if properly managed.

There aren't many institutions extant today that I could trust to properly construct and operate a nuclear reactor, never mind manage nuclear waste for the next 100000 years.

The Trump government just decided that there is an acceptable level to irradiate the population by the way (abandoned the linear-no-threshold model of radiation's effects on an organism)

TZubiri 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

another day, another supply chain vulnerability