| ▲ | cguess 6 hours ago |
| This is a hiring issue, not a legal one. The US has no official language, and no language tests, so requiring English in law would be dicey to put it mildly. What if I'm hiring someone specifically to work at a Spanish language news outlet? |
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| ▲ | JCTheDenthog 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| >What if I'm hiring someone specifically to work at a Spanish language news outlet? Having actually worked at a Spanish language news outlet before (1 of 4 tv and radio stations in the office I was doing IT help desk work in), I can tell you that every single employee spoke English somewhere on the level of very good to near native fluency. As it turns out, knowing English (or the native language of whatever country you're in) is an incredible value-multiplier for almost every job position imaginable. As far as language issues at my current job goes, it turns out once you hire a manager that speaks both Hindi and English (or Marathi and English, or Bengali and English, you get the picture) it doesn't matter much if the H1Bs he hires barely speak English because he can just start shouting at them in Hindi if they don't understand (even if several native English speakers are in the meeting too). |
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| ▲ | cguess 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Again, this is a hiring issue, not a legal one. You want to make it against the law for your boss to hire bad managers? | | |
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| ▲ | svachalek 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The H-1B visa is specifically for hiring "highly specialized" workers. Lack of the supposed skills that let them across the border is in fact a legal issue. |
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| ▲ | bijowo1676 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | H1Bs are not hired for their knowledge of english, however you can define it. They are hired for specialized occupational skills | | |
| ▲ | naturalmovement 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Skills which, with very few exceptions, are conducted in English. | | |
| ▲ | bijowo1676 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | You don’t need to be Shakespeare to do specialized job that’s first Second most visa applicants already get tested on their English skill when they apply for Visa, for example, universities require English proficiency for F1 visa using GRE exam And why do you think you are better than an employer in assessing required English proficiency of an employee | | |
| ▲ | NoMoreNicksLeft 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | >for example, universities require English proficiency for F1 visa using GRE exam Why would the universities fail them on these exams, when it would mean losing out on that sweet, sweet tuition money? | | |
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| ▲ | gmueckl 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| But Visa applications need to prove English proficiency already. So it's somehow neither here nor there. |
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| ▲ | pandaman 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| >and no language tests English test is a requirement for naturalization, which is governed by the same INA, which governs H1B and other visas. |
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| ▲ | naturalmovement 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| EO 14224 designates English as the official language of the US. |
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| ▲ | generj 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Which is clearly illegal. Congress would need to declare any official language(s). Moreover, by treaty and law (NALA of 1990) obligations to Native American tribes there must be more languages than merely English. | | |
| ▲ | naturalmovement 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | cguess 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | This one actually certainly is, it just hasn't shown up in court because no one's dumb enough to enforce it. The Constitutional Convention discussed a national language at length in 1789, and adamantly didn't include a language requirement on purpose. |
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| ▲ | DANmode 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > This is a hiring issue, not a legal one. When the law specifically dictates stuff like the talent of the person, I’m not convinced you’re correct. |
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| ▲ | readthenotes1 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The US has an official language, and there are now language tests for some occupations |
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| ▲ | bee_rider 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | The executive branch has been instructed to act like we have an official language, but Congress hasn’t passed any law on the matter. |
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| ▲ | panny 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| >The US has no official language Oh but it does. And it's English, https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/03/06/2025-03... |
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| ▲ | bee_rider 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That’s just an Executive Order. Executive Orders are instructions to the executive branch, not the country itself (obviously, the president doesn’t have that ability). Congress hasn’t passed a law establishing an official language in the US. | |
| ▲ | free652 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I dont think an EO can do that, so at most just executive agencies. Meaning the 2 other branches can ignore it. | |
| ▲ | parrellel 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I don't believe Trump's wacko EOs are binding law. Like, the Gulf of Mexico is still the Gulf of Mexico. The DoD is still the DoD. No reason to give the fascist LARPers the respect. Just don't give the poor clerk forced to regurgitate the junk a hard time. | | |
| ▲ | newfriend 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | or DACA? | | |
| ▲ | parrellel 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Honestly, Executive Orders in general are dysfunctional cludge. I feel less bad about things like DACA, since that's trying to fix something broken instead of wrecking things for no useful reason (or acting to puff up a sick ego) ... but hell no, that should have been a proper law. |
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