| ▲ | theamk 20 hours ago |
| Makes sense, they are US company. I am surprised it took them that long. |
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| ▲ | rwmj 12 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| "US company must obey US law" doesn't make for a very interesting headline. |
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| ▲ | ceeam 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | "The world should stop trusting the US companies" OTOH... | | | |
| ▲ | ohmg 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The headline is more « US law is batshit and extends well beyond its borders with real world consequences » | | |
| ▲ | pavon 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | This is not an example of that. It is perfectly within US jurisdiction to prevent US companies from doing business with sanctioned countries. That is the point of a sanction, and US is in good company in choosing to use sanctions as a diplomatic tool. It is more of an example of how the internet/software industry is too consolidated to the US, and thus other countries are too dependent on the US in those areas. If the internet infrastructure was well distributed, then people in sanction countries could simply get certificates issued by a different CA, and in some cases they can. However, this is complicated by the fact that the list of trusted CAs is dominated by US organizations (Google, Mozilla, Apple, Microsoft). If you want to reach western audience you must use certs from a CA approved by them. | |
| ▲ | ezbie 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Exactly. Ever since I was a kid I never understood how the US has jurisdiction way beyond their borders. Then I graduated in International Relations and understood that the hole is much deeper than that. Now it's pretty obvious with all the shit that trump has been doing, but back then me and much of the people I know were oblivious to what US power really means. |
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| ▲ | account42 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It is however a reminder that "just use LE" is not a valid response to concerns about protocols/APIs/browsers/etc requiring TLS. |
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| ▲ | floper_a 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| That's just another reminder that no one from outside of US should deal with US companies. |
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| ▲ | bigfishrunning an hour ago | parent [-] | | Of course not! just find viable alternatives to Microsoft, Apple, Mozilla, YCombinator, Google, Intel, AMD, ... In all seriousness, as an American I'd love to see a healthier, more well-distributed tech industry, but I don't see many companies stepping up to provide competing services. It's my understanding that china has alternatives to many of these products/services, but I really don't see how anyone in Europe could possibly use a US-free internet. | | |
| ▲ | Galanwe 39 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > but I don't see many companies stepping up to provide competing services Maybe because the US dropped most of its anti trust regulations, leading to ridiculously monopolistic practices such as "acquire everything that may be threatening". | | |
| ▲ | bigfishrunning 21 minutes ago | parent [-] | | When was the last time you heard about a European cellphone manufacturer, or social media network, or web browser being acquired by an American monopoly? I can only think of Nokia, purchased by microsoft in 2014. Those phones ran windows CE before that even, so you could hardly have avoided the american tech industry. All I'm trying to say is, it's impossible for Europeans to both A) be on the internet and B) avoid the US tech industry. |
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