Google owns 14% Anthropic and 6% xAI.

When Anthropic spends on xAI, it benefits Google. When google spends on xAI, it benefits Google. When xAI spends on Google, believe it or not, that benefits Google.

This is how a Ponzi -style circular financing scheme typically works.

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JumpCrisscross 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> When Anthropic spends on xAI, it benefits Google

Unless Google is directing these transactions, this is not a novel issue. (We see a similar effect with mutual funds owning most companies [1]. It's a weak effect.)

> This is how a Ponzi -style circular financing scheme typically works

No. It's potential conflicts of interest. It's not circular financing. Circular financing follows the cash. When NVIDIA invests in OpenAI so OpenAI can buy NVIDIA chips, that is circular financing.

[1] https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/the-rise-of-the-mutua...

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SecretDreams 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I think it depends on how you view the payout google will get when these companies IPO and give Google exist liquidity and a nicer looking balance sheet, if needed, either or.

	▲	JumpCrisscross 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> it depends on how you view the payout google will get when these companies IPO and give Google exist liquidity and a nicer looking balance sheet Google has a fantastic balance sheet with or without these investments. None of the recent deals have uniquely enabled an IPO. So they'd be playing to increase their stakes' value by a few points ahead of a dump, a dump that would almost certainly wipe out much more than they'd stand to gain by trying to make someone else a dollar so they get nickels and dimes out of it.

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thundergolfer 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No a Ponzi scheme involves not output, but here there is very much output in the inference being sold by Anthropic. Pretty big difference.