You're being downvoted because you appear to be not asking genuinely and you're trying to cast doubt instead of seeking to understand.

Because at this point there's really no excuse for not having any idea why people are mad about AI. If you can't guess it's because you're intentionally ignorant of the problem. Because "just asking" is a specific strategy used do doubt and discredit anyone you disagree with.

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thunky an hour ago | parent [-]

> You're being downvoted because you appear to be not asking genuinely

I literally said I was asking genuinely.

It's either one of two reasons imo:

1. Their son hates "ai slop" and doesn't think AI is useful.

2. Their son is afraid of not being employable.

I see #1 the most here.

But I suspect it's a front because the posters don't want to admit #2. Hence my question.

I figured it's easier for someone to admit someone else is afraid than admit they are.

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array_key_first an hour ago | parent | next [-]

So you... weren't... asking genuinely. You already came to a conclusion and just wanted to argue.

Even if it's "secretly" #2 for most people, is that even unreasonable?

It's so bizarre to me that people are acting like a supposedly existential threat on their livelihood is not a reasonable complaint or fear. Historically people, like, behead other people for that.

I don't know, I'm older so I have much less fear about my livelihood but I can't blame young people for being worried about it. And, if they are, for choosing not to use AI. In a way, you could argue that using AI is self-destructive.

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tracerbulletx an hour ago | parent | next [-]

The idea that building a hive machine world of ultimate efficiency is a moral imperative greater than creating a good and fair life for the living people of the world is psychotic. We could of course use AI to benefit everyone, but it's so incredibly obvious to everyone that's not going to happen and its hand waved. That's insulting.

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thunky an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

You're putting a lot of words in my mouth.

I shared my assumption.

I asked the question to get a real perspective from someone who was already sharing. I didn't know their answer before I asked and still don't.

Also I never said #2 was unreasonable. And I don't blame anyone for being fearful either.

But there is an anti-tech sentiment on this tech site, and I find ironic and disappointing.

	▲	wu2Fe7sp 27 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		being anti-ai is not being anti-tech; people have posted language/editor/framework wars here for literal decades, nobody called not liking PHP being anti-tech

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techblueberry an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why would no one want to admit #2? I’m afraid.

Also it feels like you responded to “people are downvoting you because it feels like a gotcha” with “yes, it is in fact a gotcha”

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thunky an hour ago | parent [-]

I'm just saying I don't see that much here. Most of the negativity is something like "its just a token generator".

I don't care about downvotes. I'm just said that from my perspective anything positive about AI on this site will be met with them. What a twist for a tech site.

	▲	bigstrat2003 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		> from my perspective anything positive about AI on this site will be met with them. What a twist for a tech site. Yes, people are hostile towards a crappy technology that doesn't work as advertised, and is looking like it will cause job shortages because companies are trying to lean on the tech even though it doesn't work. That shouldn't be remotely surprising.

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surgical_fire 8 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If that was your stance, the question was never genuine. When you ask a question expecting a certain outcome, you are obviously not very curious about the answer.

Also, HN is a somewhat large community. I am skeptical about AI for neither reason you mentioned - I think it's a deadend technology and the economics make no sense. A ridiculous waste of resources sucking up all the oxygen in the room.

I don't really care about slop, because that would require me to think that human generated shit is somehow superior. Truth is most things made by humans also suck.

I am also not at all afraid of losing my job to AI. I seriously doubt the competence and experience of anyone afraid of it.

I am afraid of losing my job because of the incoming brutal economic conditions worldwide that I believe are in the horizon. Partly because of AI, but not because I think agents can do my job; because the humongous amount of money burned in the AI pit has to be accounted for.

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salawat an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

>But I suspect it's a front because the posters don't want to admit #2. Hence my question.

And that's why you're getting reflexively downvoted. Because we can already tell by the way you telegraphed the question you aren't worth wasting time on. As it turns out, some of us don't think our youth shouldn't be able to have the same opportunities we did because a bunch of techies got the financial sector to go all in on greedmaxing. Those of us that actually believe in keeping society functional find very little to be recommended by blind "believer" types who just think you can yank the rug out from under your descendants, and force them to have to shape their life around choices you think are cool.

One can be a tech enthusiast and still see that AI is crack cocaine to the type of people who'd set society on fire given they can find someone to help them think through the implementation details, which before AI, was basically the last control the professional caste had over the Capital class. The kids can understand this. Strangely, there is a surprising number of adults who don't seem to ever make the jump to understanding not everyone has entirely benevolent intentions hidden behind their smile.