it seems like you just need to identify issues with vibe coding and then have people ask ai for tips on how to know about how to navigate those, I've seen "architecture" and "security" come up as two main objections so far

So... manually learn architecture and security and then vibe code away?

Nope, current flagship models are very happy to make huge missteps across the whole development stack of design, planning, implementation, and testing -- but playing different models against each other can help catch more egregious issues.