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oceansky 3 hours ago

Awful time for gamers and PC hobbyists not fully into AI.

aunty_helen 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is 100% going to kill the home built pc market. When I started building gaming pcs, the top top card was 750$ (NZD). Now they’re 10,000 just for the gpu and another 1-2000 for ram.

People used to get into gaming pcs as an affordable hobby, now it’s making general aviation look like plan B.

Ray20 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I don't understand the threat to the PC market.

Prices haven't risen THAT much and are quite affordable. And if you look at the improved quality of upscalers (DLLS 4.5 for example), gaming is now more affordable than ever, despite the increased cost of components.

Of course, the 5090 prices are insane, as are for SOME memory models, but that's nothing new and represents a fairly small market share.

> When I started building gaming pcs, the top top card was 750$ (NZD)

When I started building gaming PC, the top $700 cards didn't even provide comfortable performance or graphics. Back then, you were supposed to have several of this connected SLI or somethin. And even then, it wasn't always reliable, and it resulted in stuttering, lags, and graphical artifacts (in cases when it worked). Today, even $700 graphics cards are a much better product from a user perspective than the high-end cards of that time (and that's not even taking into account that $700 cards back then were much more expensive).

luqtas an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

there's much more than triple A video-games running at 240 Hz on Ultra settings... a 200 USD laptop/computer has enough power to run hundreds of interesting indie games and AAA from the past

jayd16 an hour ago | parent [-]

Yeah sure, but some folks were in it for the hot rods too.

johnvanommen 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes, this will definitely renew interest in Stadia type products.

themafia 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's more likely to kill the AI market. They're overbuilding capacity and most of it is going unused. The upcoming haircut is going to kill a lot of the major players.

They've intentionally crafted an unsustainable business model in an effort to get users in the front door and raise their MAUs. We've seen this story before. We should know precisely where it's headed.

Joel_Mckay 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Indeed, Gamers Nexus is doing interviews with PC component manufacturers, and some are hurting bad right now. The PC market is no longer in competition, but rather survival mode. =3

https://www.youtube.com/@GamersNexus/videos

throwatdem12311 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Don’t you worry - Microsoft and Amazon will have you covered with cloud streaming.

Can’t afford a computer because they bought up all the supply? They’ll conveniently sell it back to you with a subscription!

You’ll own nothing and be happy.

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paulmist 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think it's the opposite. Sure in short term hobbyists are getting squeezed, but the amount of capital that they can put into pushing the edge is small compared to Fortune 500. Sooner or later hobbyists will benefit, especially if the market crashes.

baq 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If it crashes after it kills the PC we’ll be left with… nothing? Path matters as much as destination

amelius 41 minutes ago | parent [-]

Apple will survive, but it's like having a car with the hood welded shut and controlled from Apple headquarters. Not much fun for hobbyists.

rvba 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

Apple has nothing to do with gaming.

oceansky an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I fully agree, the billion dollar question is when it will come.

lacunary 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

also for ones fully into AI