Worse? There is nothing wrong with wanting 1B. Anybody who said they wouldn't want it is lying.

jesterson 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I wouldn’t want. I have enough. Not everyone is wanting money.

But it is not the point. The point is, when you take high moral ground and talk about bug problems to help humanity, and then your own diary exposes you as avaricious simpleton, the whole high moral ground crumbles. And you expose yourself as another grifter.

That’s what happened to Brockman. Although smart people could see these qualities in altman, brockman etcetera way before that happened

	▲	rvz 9 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> The point is, when you take high moral ground and talk about bug problems to help humanity, and then your own diary exposes you as avaricious simpleton, the whole high moral ground crumbles. And you expose yourself as another grifter. Unfortunately, this is now 90% of this space and it is now full of grifters which was not the case in 2010. In the case of OpenAI, there were less grifters and they were dormant in 2016 and many were exposed in 2023 when Sam was fired and rehired afterwards and most of them infiltrated the company after 2023. In 10 years time, after this upcoming financial crash, you will hear some of the former-employees after 2023 admitting that they were part of the grift and were never interested in AI in the first place. "OpenAI was nothing without its people" except only if it meant getting a mansion or a yacht for the benefit of h̶u̶m̶a̶n̶i̶t̶y̶ themselves.

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exfalso 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nonsense. What the hell would you do with 1B? Give it to charities maybe. Maybe set up an investment where dividends are paid to charity. Running out of ideas

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_zoltan_ 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Set up a nice investment vehicle with maybe 400m so I can get 1.6m in dividends a year which would be better enough to comfortably travel the world, have a private chef, someone who organized travel so I don't have to..

A nice 12 person yacht on the Mediterranean is 400k eur for 2 weeks (with staff) so I'd realize it's not enough and invest the rest so I could get comfy.

Along the way help friends and family, pay off mortgages, usually good stuff.

It's not that hard to spend 4% a year of that.

	▲	exfalso 40 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		What's the point of that? That sounds like the most boring life. You want to rot away on a yacht? Private chef? Are you kidding? Help family? Sure, although you don't need that much money for that. Friends? Ehh not very smart, just think about the changes in the friendships' authenticity.

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fnord77 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'd finally feel financially secure

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rvz 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Really?

If anything less than $1B isn't enough then it is never enough. $1B is the new $100M thanks to ongoing currency debasement.

Also, there is something called "taxes" which is what makes anyone who has millions or billions to want even more money and the IRS will still come after you anywhere in the world.

Otherwise they have to renounce their citizenship and move to a tax haven.

	▲	_zoltan_ 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I'm not in the US, so I don't care about the IRS. Tax wise at this level there are very tax efficient vehicles available.

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jesterson 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There are a lot of greedy people thinking everyone would die for a bullion. They couldn’t comprehend another way of thinking due to narrow mindset

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fragmede 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You've run out of ideas already? Try harder! What charities? Why? How much, to which ones? How involved with those charities are you going to be? What dent in history are you going to make with that billion? With or without your name attached. Build housing, cure cancer, feed the hungry, buy this simulator https://www.1940airterminal.org/news/liquidation-of-simulato...

	▲	codechicago277 9 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Completely missing the other costs associated with any of these things. If money was enough to “feed the hungry” Musk or Gates would have already done it. The real problem is systemic injustice, like governments stealing foreign aid that’s meant to go to the poor. Money can’t always solve these. Time is more valuable than money and unless you have tons of time and space that simulator is just an expensive paperweight.
	▲	exfalso 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		My point was that there isn't anything I could do with that money, and neither can the vast majority of people in the world. So I would immediately try to pass it on to people who have better use for it Wishing for 1B is completely nonsensical if you understand what kind of money that is.
	▲	Angostura 10 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Perhaps the commenter would just like to lead a contented life without having to bother with all of that
	▲	gizajob 11 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Didn’t even buy a Yacht or a Warhol yet.

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sumeno 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I would be a billionaire for about 5 minutes because I'd spend 95% of it making the lives of others better and still have enough left over that neither me nor any of my immediate family ever has to work again instead of hoarding it like the monsters who end up actually having a billion dollars.

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tasuki 6 hours ago | parent [-]

What is the point of your comment? It is hard for me to read it in another way than "I am very virtuous", which might be true (well done you!) but usually isn't a thing people post about themselves in a discussion forum...

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sumeno 4 hours ago | parent [-]

It's a direct response to the person I was replying to, that's how posts work.

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tasuki 4 hours ago | parent [-]

The person you were replying to said:

> There is nothing wrong with wanting 1B. Anybody who said they wouldn't want it is lying.

You said:

> I'd spend 95% of it making the lives of others better

Again, well done you. And... I don't think that's a counter example? Being this virtuous, wouldn't you love to give away a billion? Wouldn't you enjoy it very much? You could write comments about it and people would upvote you!

	▲	sumeno 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I do not want a billion dollars, there is no ethical way to get a billion dollars. If I accidentally had a billion dollars I would get rid of the billion dollars as quickly as possible. The op thinks that I, as well as most of the other responses to them, are liars

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rozap 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Every billionaire is a policy failure. It's not a question of equity, the issue is that no one human should be that powerful. It's very obvious that its leading to the US's rather quick and colorful decline. A small cohort of very powerful people are moving elections and policy to enrich themselves, everyone else be damned.

	▲	ToValueFunfetti 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Even assuming all of this is true, nothing you've said means it's wrong to want a billion dollars. As described, your issue is with the system that makes it possible to get it.

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nativeit 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That level of personal wealth is inherently immoral and doesn’t *ever* happen without exploitation.