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dragontamer 22 days ago

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-shuts-down-dojo-ai-2219...

Dojo is shutdown dude. Literally doing nothing but rotting. After spending $Billions on a custom chip, Tesla is now just buying NVidia chips and wasting their Dojo efforts entirely

Team dismantled. Operations closed. Game over.

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A similar event is playing out with xAI. Operations are transferring over to SpaceX. Out of money, out of time. They're going to try to grab more money (possibly illegally) across Musks enterprises but there's some severe legal questions on the legality of these moves.

It's already sketchy as all hell that xAI bought Tesla's GPU fleet. Now SpaceX is buying it up under doubious circumstances.

Whatever is going on with xAI / Twitter is now clear. It's not possible for it to stand on its own two feet and needs external investors to continue to survive.

fastball 22 days ago | parent [-]

Ok, but Dojo clearly has a spiritual successor in the form of: whatever Tesla is currently using to train FSD models? Like... Tesla kills teams all the time. Sounds like many were absorbed into the rest of the org. Seems like a bit of a nothing-burger without the follow-up that Tesla is shutting down FSD ambitions in general (or similar).

dragontamer 22 days ago | parent [-]

Yeah. It's called NVidia GPUs.

IE: Tesla spent over a $Billion building a team and custom building Dojo chips only to fire the entire team, throw away their chips and buy NVidia.

fastball 22 days ago | parent [-]

Are they replacing their onboard chips with NVidia chips?

AFAICT Tesla has increased investment in their own chip ambitions. Dojo specifically being cut is a massive failure if you are motivated to believe that, but otherwise it looks more like a subset of custom chip work that didn't pay off and the company has appropriately cut their losses. The onboard "AI2/3/4/5" chips are clearly the bigger investment (they can be found on every Tesla vehicle) and do not seem to be going anywhere at the moment.

dragontamer 22 days ago | parent [-]

We are just a few months away from the 10 year anniversary of Elon's coast-to-coast full self driving promise made in 2016.

If your idea of Elon Musks AI success is to lean on THAT side of Tesla... well, good luck with that.

fastball 22 days ago | parent [-]

Tesla is one of 3 companies currently operating a driverless taxi service.

dragontamer 21 days ago | parent [-]

Ah yes. The driverless cars with a safety driver at the wheel. So.... driverless.

You know that it's a public service and we literally can see the drivers, right?

fastball 21 days ago | parent [-]

They are operating without drivers in Austin.

dragontamer 20 days ago | parent [-]

Chase vehicle.

In any case, the promise was full coast to coast self driving by 2016. Not a limited run of some automatic taxis (mostly for publicity) that only operates with safety drivers or safety chase vehicles by 2026 in only one city.

Finally, we've gone from talking about top level AIs chips (Dojo) to limited run safety driver based taxis. It's really astonishing how far you are moving the goalposts here looking for a win.

You know that Elon Musks primary AI effort is xAI, which has failed so hard it's being rescued by SpaceX right? There's like the actual AI effort we can talk about here.