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softwaredoug 14 hours ago

We need some kind of independent anti-corruption agency, like the one we told Ukraine they had to have to receive aid.

jshier 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

All independent agencies are dead, according to SCOTUS fiat. If we want anything to survive they'll have to be rebuilt, either with an enlarged court that won't strike them down again, or as section 1 agencies that Congress has to power directly (which will also be hugely corrupt). Either that or an amendment that creates a branch that straddles the legislative and executive, to be truly independent.

softwaredoug 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes I know, sorry should have clarified my sarcasm :)

Muromec 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It wasnt US, it was EU who did that, then gave us visa free travel and a few BN for it. Then monitored the whole thing and imlementation of it.

Anticorruption agency head cant be removed even by parliament vote, not even the executive.

But then again, every governmemt and political person has their taxes published by default

heurist 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Didn't that anti-corruption agency end up being corrupt too? Hard to follow all this stuff.

Muromec 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Nah, they are fine. They ate head of presidents office alive last week.

Add: it's also not one anticorruption agency, but the whole bunch of them -- law enforcement one (think of FBI, but investigating corruption in government), special prosecutors office, another agency monitoring assets of anyone close enough to government (including immigration officers on a country level) and their family and a whole separate court with judges vetted by independent panel.

It's elections of Doge of Venice level of indirection.

perihelions 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> "Nah, they are fine. They ate head of presidents office alive last week."

That's the same guy who tried to take over that anti-corruption office. He would be controlling it now, if it weren't for the massive country-wide protests about it. I'm not sure that they're doing fine.

Economist, July 2025:

> "On July 22nd the Rada, Ukraine’s parliament, passed a bill that would place the country’s two main anti-corruption bodies—NABU, which investigates wrongdoing, and SAPO, which prosecutes it—under the control of the presidency. This was not the work of rogue MPs. It was orchestrated from the top by President Volodymyr Zelensky and his all-powerful chief of staff, Andriy Yermak."

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2025/07/23/volodymyr-zelen... ( https://archive.is/kYh4w )

BBC, last week: "...was forced to U-turn after mass demonstrations",

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz0nljm4y74o ("Andriy Yermak: How Zelensky's right-hand man fell from power" / "Fall of Zelensky's top aide - reboot for Kyiv or costly shake-up?")

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_anti-corruption_protests_...

Muromec 3 hours ago | parent [-]

>That's the same guy who tried to take over that anti-corruption office. He would be controlling it now, if it weren't for the massive country-wide protests about it. I'm not sure that they're doing fine.

Well, they won for now, that's what matters.