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roadside_picnic 16 hours ago

As an avid reader (and sometimes writer) of technical books, it's sad to see the, perhaps inevitable, decline of the space. I still remember in the early 2000s Barnes and Noble would still have massive shelf space devoted to every technical topic you could imagine. I could spend hours just exploring what languages and topics there were I didn't even know existed. Powell's Technical Books used to be an entire separate store filled with books on every technical topic imaginable.

The publishing industry veterans I've worked with told me it was even more incredible during the height of the dotcom boom: book sales in the 100,000 copy range was not that rare.

Today I can only think of two truly technical book stores that still exist: The MIT Press Bookstore in Cambridge, MA and Ada Books in Seattle, WA. The latter, while a delightful store, has relegated the true technical book section to the backroom, which unfortunately doesn't seem to get refreshed too often (though, part of the beauty of this is it still has many of the weird old technical books that used to be everywhere).

marai2 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Same with the Stanford university bookstore. Was one of the better bookstores in the Bayarea. Used to have a whole room of technical, science, math books. It too is a shadow of its former self. So sad.

zippyman55 8 hours ago | parent [-]

I cry when I visit the Stanford Bookstore. In the 1980's if I needed any technical book, it was there. Now, just stupid clothing.

naikrovek 22 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> As an avid reader (and sometimes writer) of technical books, it's sad to see the, perhaps inevitable, decline of the space.

When I think about this, I get a little bit scared. Imagine books going away, even if it's just the subcategory of technical books.

The printed word has been around for a long time. The number of things that have been printed has always gone up. It really bothers me that that's changing.

PDFs and websites are no substitute for printed paper bound in a cover. PDFs and websites are a fallback when the preferred media isn't available, they are not supposed to be the preferred media. All of the of the reasons that people have given over the years are applicable when it comes to why paper is superior for this.

rr808 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> told me it was even more incredible during the height of the dotcom boom

I was a developer in the 90s before Netscape even came out. I didn't have a computer at home and dialup barely existed. If you wanted to do computer stuff you had to read. If you wanted to try a library you had to buy a CD from a bookstore or mail in an order which would get posted to you.

rmason 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I too am avid reader and was visiting five local bookstores on a weekly basis. Several of them had huge areas stocked with tech books. I had tried Amazon maybe six months after it launched and bought there sporadically. But almost any book i sought was available locally and the savings weren't worth the convenience of purchasing locally.

Then in a three month period in late Spring 2000 all the programming books disappeared. Then my choice was between Amazon with quick delivery and the local store with a slower delivery and a higher price. So been buying from Amazon ever since and I can't remember the last time I have visited a bookstore.

seg_lol 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The UW bookstore in Seattle like many big science schools had a wondrous technical book section. Isles of Springer. The bookstore itself is a shadow of its former shelf.

zdragnar 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

My own college experience heavily soured me on both book stores and especially school run book stores. The markup was obscene and their buy back rates were worse.

Half price books and a few other book stores lulled me back a few times, but nonfiction books are kept around mostly as eye candy at this point.

bsder 13 hours ago | parent [-]

All the US universities outsourced their bookstores.

Now I can't even walk in and browse what books the various departments are using for classes, anymore. Everything is now behind bars and completely inaccessible.

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zippyman55 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes, I was so disappointed with my visit last year - not yet hopeless, but close to it. Elliott Bay Book Company in Seattle is a better place.

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senderista 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ada's these days is more about politics than technology.

zx8080 12 hours ago | parent [-]

What kind of politics? I mean, what do they sell, little to no tech books?

jayde2767 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Weird, I have honestly never walked into a Barnes and Noble and had satisfaction with any of their technical content on the shelf. That pleasure died when we lost Borders.

*Edit: spell correct kills me!

aksss 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah, peak experience for me was when our town had both a Borders and B&N offering huge tech book sections. Then Borders closed. Then B&N became a toy store.

Mistletoe 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This makes sense, "enough" of the old technical info is in the AI brains now and easily accessed via a query.

TheOtherHobbes 11 hours ago | parent [-]

A lossy compressed version of it, at least.

But a lot of is also in blogs and (video) tutorials. As well as Stack Overflow.

And all very searchable.

The old brick-of-paper approach to tech manuals just isn't a thing any more. I don't particularly miss it.

It was, if you think about, usually a slow and inefficient way to present information - often better at presenting what was possible than how to do make it happen.

lazystar 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> often better at presenting what was possible than how to do make it happen.

that, i feel, is the chilling aspect to this situation. does the lack of new books explaining what's possible, imply that our society's opportunites for growth are dwindling?