| ▲ | wtallis 16 hours ago | |||||||
NAND is built with dozens of layers on one die. HBM DRAM is a dozen-ish dies stacked and interconnected with TSVs, but only one layer of memory cells per die. AMD's X3D CPUs have a single SRAM die stacked on top of the regular CPU+SRAM, with TSVs in the L3 cache to connect to the extra SRAM. I'm not aware of anyone shipping a product that stacks multiple SRAM dies; the tech definitely exists but it may not be economically feasible for any mass-produced product. | ||||||||
| ▲ | arcticbull 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||
The issue is size, SRAM is 6 transistors per bit while DRAM is 1 transistor and a capacitor. Anyone who wants density starts with DRAM. There’s never been motivation to stack. | ||||||||
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| ▲ | toast0 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
> AMD's X3D CPUs have a single SRAM die stacked on top of the regular CPU+SRAM, with TSVs in the L3 cache to connect to the extra SRAM. Just FYI, the latest X3D flipped the stack; the cache die is now on the bottom. This helps transfer heat from the compute die to the heatsink more effectively. In armchair silicon designer mode, one could imagine this setup also adds potential for multiple cache dies stacked, since they do interpose all the signals, why not add a second one ... but I'm sure it's not that simple, for one: AMD wants the package z-heights to be consistent between the x3d and normal chip. | ||||||||
| ▲ | mattaw2001 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
I agree with your description and conclusion. Additionally the companies that can make chip stacks like HBM in volume are the HBM manufacturers. As they are bottlenecked by the packaging/stacking right now (while also furiously building new plant capacity) I can't see them diverting manufacturing to stacking a new SRAM tech. | ||||||||
| ▲ | LargoLasskhyfv 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||
Every time I read about D|S-RAM scaling I'm reminded of https://www.besang.com/ Ever heard of them? What do you think? Vaporware? | ||||||||