| ▲ | bigbadfeline 19 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> Being reliant on the hardware manufacturer (or network operator?) for OS updates is the crazy world we live in. Being reliant on a single OS permanently nailed to the hardware is no less crazier. I'd like to be able to install another OS on a vulnerable device, it would help tremendously and not only with the security of that specific device. Now I've got some expensive paperweights that I can't even use as such because every time I see them I have the urge to throw them in the trash can. Provide a way to unlock the phones and a standard BSP, it should be the law. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | chasil 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
If you are buying now, you want a device on a v5 Linux kernel with BPF support, where the bootloader can be unlocked and VoLTE is implemented in the 3rd-party ROM. LineageOS has a build roster of current devices at this URL: https://lineageos.org/Changelog-30/ The Pixels are the most flexible, but don't buy a model from Verizon (they don't allow unlocked bootloaders). Most other OEMs require you to generate an unlock token and send it to them, then wait a week, which is extrememly inconvenient (and sometimes they just stop and refuse, as I understand OnePlus has). If you want a locked bootloader at the end of the process for security, then you will be on a later Pixel with Graphene. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | celeryd 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> Being reliant on a single OS permanently nailed to the hardware is no less crazier. Locking OS upgrades to a network vendor is substantially crazier. It creates pockets where the hardware vendor ships a security update but your network doesn't care to ship it and isn't incented to. It is BANANAS. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | GuB-42 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Just because one layer of the security stack is compromised doesn't turn your device into a paperweight. I know many people who use out-of-support and vulnerable devices and I am not aware of a single one getting pwned by a system exploit, it is always some kind of phishing or scam. This is anecdotal evidence but I couldn't find actual data, as most don't distinguish between malware that rely on system-level vulnerabilities (as in 0-day) and the ones that don't (like fake apps that steal credentials, mine crypto or inject ads). But it is clear that the former are a minority on Android. If you don't know what to do with it because your security standards are so high, just give it to someone with lower standards then you, or use it for some project that doesn't involve sensitive data. And if security is broken to the core, there is probably some vulnerability you can exploit to root your phone and do whatever you want with it, including installing a custom ROM. Still, I agree with you on making it mandatory to provide an unlock method, at least for out-of-support phones. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | edoceo 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Please try to e-recycle rather than normal land-fill trash. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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