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jasonvorhe 8 hours ago

Who cares about a single or two Yachts. Ukraine likely made 100 billion USD disappear and there were many people expecting just that. Just like some of the "donated equipment" started showing up on all sorts of black markets once it was shipped to Ukraine. It's just the obviously controlled media in Europe that stopped mentioning Ukraine's corruption issues right after February 2022.

Obviously I can only be a Putin-loving propaganda bot for saying such things.

rwmj 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Corruption in Ukraine is constantly in the news. https://www.economist.com/search?q=ukraine+corruption&nav_so...

matthewmacleod 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Everybody is aware the Ukraine has major corruption issues. It is frequently covered in the media and is common knowledge.

I have no doubt however that Europe (and hopefully the wider world) is less worried about that corruption than they are about Russian military aggression. And there will be some level of media focus on that – rightly so, where the focus should be on grinding the Russian kleptostate into dust as quickly and thoroughly as possible.

You're not a propaganda bot; you're just making their lives easier.

lawn 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Where does the corruption come from?

It comes from an old culture that Ukraine is trying to remove themselves from, hence the large amount of corruption charges we see.

The same culture is incidentally what makes Russia one of the most corrupt countries in the world.

jasonvorhe 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If you're happy with your tax euros disappearing in Ukraine, good for you.

I know for a fact via family ties that major newsrooms in Germany received instructions to tune out the corruption angle once the war started. I'm sure it's all nothing though and that Putin will find himself in Poland next year. Of course!

mrwrong 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

this is true, my dad is Volodymyr Zelensky

vasco 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What's your point though? There's corruption in Ukraine. Ok.

There's corruption in your country too, do you refuse to pay taxes? Or do you still pay them because some good comes with the little bad? Same deal.

jasonvorhe 6 hours ago | parent [-]

If sending hundreds of billions of tax payer money to a known oligarch run cleptocracy is comparable to some German conservative party affiliate making a couple of millions using shady COVID mask deals is comparable to you, I rest my case.

It's all corruption in the end so who cares, right?

rwmj 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Two things can be true at the same time - we don't want Russia to absorb Ukraine and then further threaten the eastern border of the EU, and we don't want Ukraine to be corrupt.

johannes1234321 6 hours ago | parent [-]

And in the Ukraine we see that the corruption is uncovered punished, even if it is in the direct circles of the president.

There are problems in uncovering it, but the attempt to get rid of corruption is a big factor in the whole situation and one of the things Russia fears.

For Russia a corrupt system was a lot simpler to influence and Ukraine showing how a partially Russian speaking country, where people moved back and forth, fighting corruption was a threat to the system.

mcphage 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> to tune out the corruption angle once the war started

Oh man, wait until you hear about what’s going on in the US, we’re experiencing corruption to a degree you can’t even imagine.