OpenAI was founded to hedge against Google dominating AI and with it the future. It makes me sad how that was lost for pipe dreams (AGI) and terrible leadership.

I fear a Google dystopia. I hope DeepSeek or somebody else will counter-balance their power.

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bryanlarsen 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That goal has wildly succeeded -- there are now several well financed companies competing against Google.

The goal was supposed to be an ethical competitor as implied by the word "Open" in their name. When Meta and the Chinese are the most ethical of the competitors, you know we're in a bad spot...

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alecco 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I said DeepSeek because they are very open (not just weights). A young company and very much unlike Chinese Big Tech and American Big Tech.

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epiccoleman 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Without having followed the issue of "AI Ethics" that closely, Anthropic seems to me to be relatively non-evil, too.

	▲	NitpickLawyer 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> Anthropic seems to me to be relatively non-evil, too. Eh... maybe? We don't yet know the results, but they have been proponents of heavy regulatory interventions since forever. Their plan was basically regulatory capture, where they sell their FUD regarding alignment, "safety" and all that jazz. If they succeed that will be evil, IMO. The best thing that can happen for us regular users is both healthy competition at the SotA level (which we kinda have, with the big4 labs keeping eachother honest) and support for small open source local models (gemmas, llamas, mistrals, qwens, etc).

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tim333 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

AGI was the thing from the start. From the OpenAI Charter:

>OpenAI’s mission is to ensure that artificial general intelligence (AGI) ... benefits all of humanity.

I agree with you on the leadership.

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tiahura 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Doesn’t it seem likely that it all depends on who produces the next AIAYN? Things go one way if it’s an academic, and another way if it’s somebody’s trade secret.