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fpauser 2 hours ago

One day "real programmers" will be gold.

okokwhatever 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Once we understand demand set the price we'll understand why our "career" is dead. Thank me later.

MangoToupe 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't think the career is going anywhere unless the career just consists of typing. We need people who understand how computers work more than ever.

giantg2 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"We need people who understand how computers work more than ever."

In small numbers, yes. In current/large numbers, maybe not. Do college students need to understand language, grammar, or the subject to write B grade papers? No, they can just prompt an LLM to do it for them. Same thing for basic CRUD apps and websites. We will always need people who understand computers, but it seems likely that the proportion of the overall IT employees that need to know how it works will approach a horizontal asymptote.

Cthulhu_ 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

Sure, they can do it for them - but the purpose of college is not to write papers. The papers are so that the students can demonstrate that they understand the subject and that they have "learned to learn". If an LLM writes it for them then they haven't proven anything other than that they can prompt an LLM. Which is great if your college degree is for "LLM prompting", but not much else.

I hope people that use LLMs to generate papers fail in other tests, else the value of a degree will be reduced to nothing - it's already suffering from a lot of "inflation" due to lowered standards and oversupply. (The lowered standards are because graduation rate became a metric and a target)

giantg2 4 minutes ago | parent [-]

"but the purpose of college is not to write papers. The papers are so that the students can demonstrate that they understand the subject and that they have "learned to learn"."

That depends on the perspective. In theory, that is the correct view. To many, the degree is just a piece of paper used to gatekeep jobs.

BinaryIgor 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Exactly and arguably we will always - unless AGI