| ▲ | nottorp 6 hours ago |
| So how long until Cloudflare joins the hated monopolies list? |
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| ▲ | debarshri 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Tech is full of ironies. 5 years ago cloudflare was held as the savior of internet. People in HN and tech in general put them on pedestal. 1.1.1.1, generous ddos protection, cdn, adn to name a few. Fastforward to today, they being hated foe bringing down the internet, compared to failing giants. I think it is a reminder that evil and good recides within oneself. |
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| ▲ | reddalo 34 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't think Cloudflare is already widely regarded as "evil", but I'm personally moving to Bunny.net, so maybe... | |
| ▲ | Rastonbury an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | your comment actually made me think about this, cloudflare hasn't actually turned full monopolist... yet, their generous free tier has led to monopoly like market share but the pain society feels is when they go down, they haven't turned the screw to make monopoly (or hyperscaler) profits They and Prince may never go that way, as someone who occasionally picked SaaS/infra stocks, the ratio of their market share/customers metrics to revenues/profit vs other peers was always on the low side (haven't look at their numbers in a while tho) | | |
| ▲ | wongarsu 15 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Some parallels to gmail, which similarly rose to dominance by offering a free tier that was leagues above what everyone else was offering. They were also hailed as the savior, followed by a period of disillusionment. Now plenty of competitors have caught up with almost-as-good free offerings, but the world is still much more centralized than it was before |
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| ▲ | nottorp 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > I think it is a reminder that evil and good recides within oneself. It's more like "organizations that attain monopoly position find themselves in a bubble that becomes disconnected from reality, regardless of the quality of their intentions". Most recent example is Google. Cloudflare next, probably. | | |
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| ▲ | MildlySerious 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Their entire business model is effectively centralizing the web. The downtime over the last two weeks shows some of the problem with that. I have used their products and have more favor toward them than I do for the corporations you're referring to, but ultimately my question is the same. |
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| ▲ | bitfis 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | My guess, just a time question. Is Cloudflare publicly traded? | | |
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| ▲ | the_gipsy 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They are already? See the football debacle in Spain. It's not their fault, legally and technically, but if everything wasn't centralized by them, it wouldn't happen. |
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| ▲ | RobotToaster 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I thought they were already on that list. |
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| ▲ | gostsamo 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I hate them a bit already, but beyond bringing down parts of the internet from time to time and occasional captchas, they are not an everyday annoyance like Google, Microsoft, and the rest. |
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| ▲ | cess11 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | To me they are, using IPv6 and VPN means CloudFlare has trouble automatically identifying me and pesters me with image captcha loops. | | |
| ▲ | esseph 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Funny, I use them to provide ipv6 to ipv4-only endpoints. | | |
| ▲ | lillecarl 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | He's talking about tunnelbroker from HE being treated as malicious traffic by Cloudflare | | |
| ▲ | nottorp 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Of course, soon only cloudflare traffic will be legit because you know, everyone uses it. |
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